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Fwd: Re: Invalid Tiki Wiki page

From: Joseph Reagle <reagle@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:36:08 -0400
To: "Luis Argerich" <luis@fuegolabs.com>, mlimburg@users.sourceforge.net
Cc: tikiwiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, www-validator@w3.org
Message-Id: <200306181836.08264.reagle@w3.org>

Hi Luis,

Could you please indicate if my request is being addressed, will be 
addressed (time frame?), has been declined, should be re-addressed to 
someone else or is being ignored so I can set my expectations about which 
steps we will next have to pursue? Thank you.

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Subject: Re: Invalid Tiki Wiki page
Date: Monday 09 June 2003 09:56
From: Joseph Reagle <reagle@w3.org>
To: "Luis Argerich" <luis@fuegolabs.com>
Cc: "W3C Validator" <www-validator@w3.org>, 

On Monday 02 June 2003 07:35, Luis Argerich wrote:
> You can't distinguish between a valid site and a valid product.
> Our product: TikiWiki is an open-source CMS that produces valid XHTML
> output, it may have bugs but we certainly are trying to address the whole
> specification.

Hi Luis, the icons being use on [1] are not intended to distinguish between
a "valid product" and a "valid html" page. They are only for indicating a
valid page, of which [1] is not. (In fact, an entry from Mark Linburg even
states that your "new homepage" is valid CSS and XHTML.) So please remove
the icons or use them in accordance with their directions.

[1] http://tikiwiki.sourceforge.net/

> On the other hand some sites use TikiWiki and modify content, add a
> banner, add a snippet of HTML to track vistors etc and that makes the
> XHTML output invalid.
> We'll continue shipping Tiki with the XHTML logo but we can't control
> what our fellow users do with the product.

I don't understand this, you mean every Tiki site displays the "Valid HTML"
logo, regardless of whether it is valid HTML? If so, that sounds like a bad

Regardless, I'm sure you can appreciate the awkwardness of trying to
convince the public that valid HTML is a good thing, and then prominent
sites display the logo for invalid content! <smile/>


Joseph Reagle Jr.                 http://www.w3.org/People/Reagle/
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