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RE: validator barfs on Netscape Composer output

From: Bart Szyszka <bart@gigabee.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 15:45:53 -0500
To: "Phil Burk" <philburk@softsynth.com>
Cc: <www-validator@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NDBBILJJALLNPMAIIPENCEIFCHAA.bart@gigabee.com>
> If you run http://www.softsynth.com/jsyn/ on the W3C validator you will
> see it barf on doctype.
Then use the right one. It's really simple.

>    Because Netscape Composer is widely used,
>    and because Netscape Communicator outputs lower case doctype,
>    then do a case INsensitive comparison of the doctype to determine the
>    "intended doctype".
>    If a case sensitive comparison of the doctype fails then print:
>        Error: DOCTYPE case is incorrect. Assuming "intended doctype".
Well the W3C validator does default to HTML4. Also, Netscape Composer
is *not* widely used. If you really want WYSIWYG, look into Dreamweaver
by Macromedia, www.macromedia.com .

> This is similar to what Java compilers do when they see a missing ';'.
> They just stick one in so that one missing ';' doesn't generate pages of
> meaningless error messages. A validator is supposed to HELP the user,
> not PUNISH them.
Well you're using a tool that checks against the W3C standards. I hardly
think that it's punishing you by showing you which parts of your document
didn't comply. If it's complaining about your DOCTYPE, then it didn't
comply. Make it comply. Simple as that.

> There's no reason Netscape can't produce legal HTML just because it is
> WYSIWIG. The fanciest thing I do in HTML is make a table. Netscape
> should be able to handle that.
Exactly. There's no reason that it can't produce legal HTML, but the fact
of the matter is that it doesn't.

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