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Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:29:46 -0400
To: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
Cc: www-tag@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF9FB87100.2EC2286C-ON85257657.004F96C2-85257657.004FA226@lotus.com>
If I get a free minute I'll link that from the agenda, you can just remind 
us.  Glad to see I wasn't missing anything I should have found in TAG 
archives.  Thanks.


Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142

Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
10/22/2009 10:06 AM
        To:     noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
        cc:     www-tag@w3.org
        Subject:        Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 

Sorry, I hadn't realized that the message to which I referred, while 
logically addressed to the TAG, was not sent to www-tag, but only to Henry 
cc: the webapps WG.  The message which seems to be asking us for a 
response from us is:


which derives in turn from


Is anyone aware of any communication to the TAG that responds to the 
original question?


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:21 AM, <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com> wrote:

At the suggestion of Jonathan Rees, I have added the following agenda 

5. Security 

    * This is a late addition to the agenda, and the chair has not 
carefully recorded all background and pertinent links 
    * Background 
          o Email from Anne van Kesteren [1] requesting that the TAG 
provide any comments soon, as HTML 5 may be taken to Last Call shortly. 
    * Goals 
          o Decide next steps regarding Cross-Origin Resource Sharing 

Thank you. 


[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Oct/0042.html 

Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142

Noah Mendelsohn 
10/21/2009 10:49 PM 
        To:        www-tag@w3.org 
        Subject:        Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009

The agenda for tomorrow's TAG teleconference is now available at [1,2], 
and in text-only form below. 

Jonathan, please confirm whether you will be able to scribe.  If Jonathan 
is not available, the next in line for scribing are Ashok, John and Larry, 

in that order.  Also, please note that there is a high probability that 
the telcon of 29 October will be cancelled, to allow all of us to get more 

work done before heading out to TPAC.  I am not yet formally announcing 
cancellation, as there is some chance that we will want a brief call 
specifically to discuss TPAC logistics and agendas.  Thank you.


[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda

Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142

  [1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: : [3]8 Oct 2009 Next: 29 Oct 2009

     [1] http://www.w3.org/
     [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
     [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-agenda

              Agenda of 22 Oct 2009 TAG teleconference

  Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
  Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
   1. Convene
         + Chair: Noah, Scribe: Jonathan Rees (unconfirmed)
         + Roll call -- Regrets: Tim
         + Note future regrets: Tim (29 (probable regrets); Nov: 12,
           19, 26; 3 December: 3 (probable regrets))
         + Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
         + Next Telcon: 15 October 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Jonathan
           Rees (unconfirmed)
         + Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
   2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
         + Approve [11]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
         + Approve [12]minutes of 1 October 2009 (the chair thinks we
           might have approved these during our call of the 8th, but
           doesn't see any record one way or the other)
         + Approve [13]minutes of 8 October 2009
   3. Administrative items (Brief)
         + Reminder that, per [14]agreement on the 8th. our meetings
           at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
         + The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
           group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
         + Proposal: tentatively, we will not meet next week on 29
           October. However, because there may be value in having a
           last minute discussion of TPAC planning, and because
           procedurally it's easy to cancel a telcon last minute, but
           impossible to schedule one, we will for the moment hold off
           on formally cancelling.
         + The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
           the [15]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
           are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
         + Reminder that a [16]Call for Exclusions has been sent for
           patents relating to the [17]First Public Working Draft of
           our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL
           parameters (call for exclusions [18]update). The call for
           exclusions ends 22 October 2009 - two days from now.
         + Reminder of future F2F meetings:
              o 2-6 November 2006 @ [19]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
                Clara, CA
              o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [20]resolution of 25
                June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
                confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
                is unsure he'll attend).
              o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [21]decision at Sept. 2009
   4. Privacy policy
         + From [22]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
           2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
           Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
         + [23]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
           Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
   5. Forbidding hyperlinks
         + Background:
              o Member-only [24]discussion asks about the increasing
                prevalence of Web sites that forbid linking to both
                the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion
                includes a [25]suggestion that the TAG become
              o TAG Finding: [26]"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web
                (Sept. 2003)
         + Goals:
              o Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate
                the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking.
              o If so, assign responsibility for further work.
   6. HTML
         + Background:
              o [27]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
                originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
                Document Format [28].ods version and an Excel [29].xls
                version are also available.)
         + Earlier background:
              o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
                ([30]session 1 and [31]session 2)
              o June 2009 F2F discussion of [32]plans to review HTML 5
              o [33]Architectural Considerations for Language
                Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
                Jonathan Rees)
              o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
                Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
                [34]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
              o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
                WG co-chairs ([35]announcement)
              o [36]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
                draft specification that we [37]agreed to on July 23.
              o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
                [38]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
                the HTML 5 draft. (see [39]email from Dan announcing
                the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
                the associated [40]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
                brief us was closed.
              o Ian Hickson [41]announces availability of initial
                drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
                part, in response to a [42]suggestion made by Noah in
                October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
                group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
              o Larry Masinter [43]announces new draft of
                [44]Architectural Considerations for Language
                Versioning for the Web . Chair's [45]response from
                Noah (member-only).
         + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
              o [46]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
                specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
                Henry Thompson
              o [47]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
                for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
              o [48]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
                practices for designing extensible languages and for
                handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
              o [49]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
                integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
         + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
              o [50]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
                HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
                - Due: 2009-10-15
              o [51]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
                individual issue) question of 3 words "other
                applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
                Due: 2009-10-20
              o [52]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
                TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
                (see: [53]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
              o [54]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
                for HTML / TPAC Due: 2009-10-02
              o [55]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
                draft for tag@w3.org proposed TAG feedback on the
                text/html media type registration in the 25 September
                draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
              o [56]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
                and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
              o [57]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
                for TPAC agenda(s) Due: 2009-10-29
         + Goals:
              o Continue technical discussion of HTML issues
                identified at the F2Fn
   7. Pending Review Items:
         + [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker
   8. Overdue Action Items:
         + [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker
   9. Any other business

     [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
     [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
     [6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
     [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
     [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
     [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
    [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
    [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
    [12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/01-minutes
    [13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
    [14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
    [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
    [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html
    [17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/
    [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html
    [19] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
    [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
    [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
    [22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
    [23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
    [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911
    [27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
    [28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
    [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
    [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
    [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
    [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
    [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
    [35] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
    [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
    [37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03

    [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
    [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
    [44] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
    [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
    [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
    [47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
    [48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
    [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
    [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
    [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
    [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
    [53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
    [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
    [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
    [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
    [57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
    [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
    [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
    [60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
    [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

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