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Re: letter-spacing with text-anchor middle

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:51:03 -0400
Message-ID: <4C3F2057.2010609@w3.org>
To: Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>
CC: Robert Longson <longsonr@gmail.com>, www-svg@w3.org, Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>
Hi, Tav-

Tavmjong Bah wrote (on 7/15/10 9:34 AM):
>
> I am confused again!! The<length>  entry in "4.2 Basic data types"
> states:
>
> "For properties defined in CSS2 [CSS2], a length unit identifier must be
> provided. For length values in SVG-specific properties and their
> corresponding presentation attributes, the length unit identifier is
> optional. If not provided, the length value represents a distance in the
> current user coordinate system. In presentation attributes for all
> properties, whether defined in this specification or in CSS2, the length
> identifier, if specified, must be in lower case."
>
> My interpretation of this is that since "font-size" is a CSS2 property
> (see 6.1) it must have a unit regardless of where it is defined while
> "stroke-width" is an SVG only property so it must have a unit only when
> defined in a CSS style sheet or the style attribute.


You're right, this section should be reworded in terms of syntax 
context.  You're missing the subtle distinction there between properties 
and attributes, because it's stated too vaguely [1].

How about something like this (assume a bulleted list for the asterisks)?

[[
A length is a distance measurement, given as a number, along with a unit 
which may be optional. Lengths are specified in one of two ways, 
depending upon whether they are used in CSS property syntax or SVG 
presentation attribute syntax:

* When a <length> is used in a stylesheet or with a property in a 
'style' attribute, the syntax must match the following pattern:

     length ::= number (~"em" | ~"ex" | ~"px" | ~"in" | ~"cm" | ~"mm" | 
~"pt" | ~"pc")?

See the CSS2 specification for the meanings of the unit identifiers.

For properties defined in CSS2 [CSS2], a length unit identifier must be 
provided. For length values in SVG-specific properties, the length unit 
identifier is optional (as with their corresponding presentation 
attributes). If a unit is not provided, the length value represents a 
distance in the current user coordinate system.

* When a <length> is are used in an SVG presentation attribute, unit 
identifiers may be optional, so the syntax must match the following 
pattern instead:

     length ::= number ("em" | "ex" | "px" | "in" | "cm" | "mm" | "pt" | 
"pc" | "%")?

The unit identifiers in such <length> values must be in lower case when 
used in an SVG presentation attribute.

Note that a percentage unit identifier is allowed in the presentation 
attribute (non-property) <length> definition. The meaning of a 
percentage length value depends on the attribute for which the 
percentage length value has been specified. Two common cases are:
  (a) when a percentage length value represents a percentage of the 
viewport width or height (refer to the section that discusses units in 
general), and
  (b) when a percentage length value represents a percentage of the 
bounding box width or height on a given object (refer to the section 
that describes object bounding box units).

In the SVG DOM, <length> values are represented using SVGLength or 
SVGAnimatedLength objects.
]]

Note that there is an outstanding issue for whether SVG-defined 
properties when used in stylesheets or style attributes must use unit 
identifiers.  This change glosses over that issue, and simply addresses 
a clarification for what is already in the SVG spec without changing the 
intent.


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/types.html#DataTypeLength

Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs
Received on Thursday, 15 July 2010 14:51:10 GMT

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