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Re: [css3-speech] reading list-style markers

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:36:22 +0900
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To: www-style@w3.org
On 06/03/2011 02:43 AM, Belov, Charles wrote:
> fantasai wrote on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:26 PM
>>
>> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-speech/#lists
>>
>> # disc, circle, square
>> #   These list item styles are spoken as the equivalent word for
>> #   the shape, in the user's language.
>>
>> Reading out "square" in front of each list item seems imho ridiculous.
>> These should map to a UA-defined (or user-defined) phrase or
>> aural icon that is appropriate for bulleted lists.
>
> Actually, the issue to me is whether screen readers are helping the
> listener keep track of the levels of bullets.  That is, whether the
> list is showing bullets, circles or squares depends on whether this
> is a nested list.  For a list like:
>
> [bullet] Cats.
> [bullet] Dogs.
> 	[circle] Lab.
> 	[circle] Chihuahua.
> [bullet] Birds.
>
> I believe the most useful output would be something that indicates
> the transition between levels, e.g.,
>
> "Begin bulleted list. Item, cats. Item, dogs.  Begin second level.
> Item, Lab. Item, Chihuahua. End second level. Item, birds."
>
> Not sure that is the most usable example, but that would be a
> non-ridiculous alternative to reading "bullet," "circle," "square".
> I suggest something like "Begin second level" rather than "Within
> dogs" because "dogs" is short but, again for example, "In-Person
> Customer Service Centers: These centers provide direct issuance
> of fare cards." is not.

Yes, I agree that this would be a reasonable rendering. I'd do it
by inserting text at the beginning/end of a list element, though,
not attaching special styling to the first list item element. :)

~fantasai
Received on Friday, 3 June 2011 00:36:52 GMT

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