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Re: [css3-mediaqueries] tv and screen media types

From: David Storey <dstorey@opera.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:20:18 +0200
Cc: www-style@w3.org
Message-Id: <3A9C1EA8-E0AA-4D5B-BA95-8B6337B06A57@opera.com>
To: Rune Lillesveen <rune@opera.com>

On 27 Oct 2010, at 11:10, Rune Lillesveen wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:58:32 +0200, Rune Lillesveen <rune@opera.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:52:35 +0200, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:45:51 +0200, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The same applies to media types like 'handheld' and 'projection' -
>>>> Opera, I know, has to go through some ridiculous contortions to try
>>>> and respect them when they exist without breaking the web otherwise.
>>> 
>>> We have moved away from that for quite a while now.
>> 
>> I don't think so.
> 
> A short answer, perhaps. We still do the projection media detection in our fullscreen mode where the presence of projection media results in projection media for the canvas, otherwise screen.
> 
> We don't do the handheld media detection in the default rendering mode for the Opera Mobile products, but it's still used for the "small screen rendering" or whatever it's called in the UI nowadays.

The Nintendo Wii browser uses the TV media type if it is there otherwise uses the Screen media type. It works better than handheld as there is no, or less legacy content out there using TV which would break modern browsers. 

I believe the TV media type is quite useful as modern TVs have pretty big resolution now (so you can;t do the trick like with mobile for applying style when the resolution is lower), but you want a somewhat different experience on TV. You generally sit close to a desktop or laptop so can have regular size text, while on TV you are usually sitting back on the couch, so want to pump up the text size for example. Using a TV media type makes it much easier to detect the user is on a TV, providing browser vendors support it. TVs also come in a standard set of resolutions (1080p/i 720, SD etc) so the TV media type in combination with media queries for those resolutions can be quite powerful if supported.

> 
> -- 
> Rune Lillesveen
> Senior Core Developer / Architect
> Opera Software ASA
> 

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