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Re: [css3-background] vastly different takes on "blur"

From: Brendan Kenny <bckenny@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:14:14 -0500
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzm2AhUPFGjDsjlkMDTe45uVfEw9FrnQd-rMkZ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brian Manthos <brianman@microsoft.com>
Cc: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, "robert@ocallahan.org" <robert@ocallahan.org>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Brian Manthos <brianman@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Request:  Please incorporate the “mathematical vs. human perception” in your
> renderings.  For me at least, it really helps make evaluation less ... um
> ... blurry.
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> Thanks,
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> -Brian
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> From: Brad Kemper [mailto:brad.kemper@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:11 AM
> To: Sylvain Galineau
> Cc: Brian Manthos; fantasai; Simon Fraser; Tab Atkins Jr.;
> robert@ocallahan.org; www-style@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [css3-background] vastly different takes on "blur"
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> OK. I'm pretty booked today during (US West Coast) daytime, but will try to
> have something tonight or tomorrow to present that is heavily slanted toward
> my viewpoint. Uh, I mean, something fair and acceptable for voting on,
> including some zoomed-in bitmaps and where they fall on the edge, etc., to
> evaluate.
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> On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Sylvain Galineau wrote:
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> Same. We can’t really agree on the definition of a visual effects without
> understanding and agreement of what it should look like (see spread vs.
> scaling discussion).
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> And it sounds like current implementations may not allow us to figure it
> out.
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> Unlike Brad though, I am somewhat sensitive to what SVG, canvas et al. do.
> It would not be helpful to authors mixing HTML and SVG to have to juggle
> multiply/divide
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> by 2 depending on the node type just so they get the same rendering. At
> least we should have a good reason for the difference.
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> From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On Behalf
> Of Brian Manthos
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:17 PM
> To: Brad Kemper; fantasai
> Cc: Simon Fraser; Tab Atkins Jr.; robert@ocallahan.orgwww-style@w3.org
> Subject: RE: [css3-background] vastly different takes on "blur"
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> +1 vote for Brad Blur Ballot Bitmaps
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> * Brian

Just to be clear, aren't the mockups for each option going to be the
same thing? For instance, wouldn't Simon's example

http://smfr.org/misc/shadow.html

just be accompanied by the question

"Would you describe this as 'blur: 8px' or 'blur: 16px'?"

?
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