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Re: standard bug / suggestion: scroll bar placement in frames

From: Vlad Simionescu <intelnav@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:31:50 -0800 (PST)
To: www-style@w3.org
Message-ID: <774298.71626.qm@web45812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I just subscribed so I'm sending again this reply of mine which I first sent 2 days ago. In the meantime David Woolley has already answered so his answer appears in the list before my message. And my original message will probably also show up in the list in a day or 2. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hopefully now I've subscribed things will go smoother.

V. Sim.

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk> wrote:

> One key point in the reply, that I think you failed to pick
> up, is that there are many different ways of scrolling. ...
> and, I would suggest,
> requiring the use of scrollbars as the scrolling control is
> one area where some platform dependence is highly desirable.

I'm not saying this. Just that *when* a scroll bar is present, it should always be visible, that is not hidden beyond the visible (user) area of the browser window. What's the point in having a scroll bar but not being able to reach it ?

> In the end, I think your real target should be Microsoft,
> as the particular scrolling control behaviour you are seeing
> is essentially that of Microsoft Windows, and you are
> probably only looking at browsers on that platform.

I really don't think Windows is the only browser platform that features scroll bars. Your suggestion would be right if on the other platforms, things would already be done properly, that is as I suggest it. I don't know but somehow I strongly doubt it.

Besides, I'm not sure if I've explained well enough what I propose. I want the scroll bar, *if* it exists, to always be at the edge of the visible area of the frame. So that it's visible and usable itself. By visible frame area I mean the area that is actually visible at the given moment, that is the intersection of the frame with the user area of the browser window. I hope it's clearer now.

V. Sim.

Received on Saturday, 29 November 2008 21:32:30 UTC

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