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Re: CSS3 @font-face / EOT Fonts - new compromise proposal

From: Dave Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:40:31 -0800
To: www-style@w3.org
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At 20:14  -0500 13/11/08, Grey Hodge wrote:
>On 11/13/2008 8:05 PM Dave Singer cranked up the brainbox and said:
>>  At 19:46  -0500 13/11/08, Grey Hodge wrote:
>>>To veer off topic for a moment, but CSS, the DVD DRM method is 
>>>completely and
>>>totally ineffectual and has been for the better part of a decade.
>>  No, it's really not.  You have to go out of your way to find that
>>  software and use it.
>No one in the year 2008 thinks "search Google" is going out of their way.

You are under the powerful illusion that everyone is like you, 
willing to search the net to find applications that might or might 
not run on their machine, might or might not be legal, might or might 
not do what they want, and so on.  I assure you that not everyone is 
like you.  You may find this distressing, or reassuring, I can't tell.

To claim that the CSS is 'completely and totally ineffectual' you'd 
have to show that there would be, and have been, no difference at all 
in the piracy rates if it did not and had not existed.  I doubt you 
can show that, I doubt it's true, and frankly, I doubt whether it's 
relevant except as a polemical point.

I have personal strong opinions on some aspects of how license and 
other restrictions are conveyed to me, including aspects of DRM, but 
saying that just because people can walk through or jump over garden 
gates, that they serve no purpose and express no boundary is, well, 
David Singer
Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Friday, 14 November 2008 01:41:45 UTC

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