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Re: CSS WG - Pulling Back the Curtains

From: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:44:27 -0500
Message-ID: <47ED3C8B.8000507@mit.edu>
To: Alan Gresley <alan@css-class.com>
CC: www-style@w3.org

Alan Gresley wrote:
> Why do you often send your reply off-list to me.

Because what I have to say is not relevant to the whole list.

> Why is this not relevant for discussion on list.

My reply?  Because most people on the list already know how to submit 
feedback.

> Firstly Daniel was supporting Paul from Microsoft. Don't you consider it worthy of the CSS WG knowing what state IE8 is in.

I don't believe I ever said anything about this issue.  I have no idea 
where this claim is even coming from.  If you do, please enlighten me. 
Links to sources much appreciated.

> that were never given to my comments that are now many months old.

For what it's worth, I didn't see any actual comments on the spec from 
your corner, but perhaps they were hidden somewhere in all the other 
things in your posts, which mostly seem to consist of praise of your 
tests and links to said tests.  I can only assume that the working group 
members had much the reaction I did, and David's post bears out this 
assumption somewhat.

This is why I attempted to explain to you how to submit feedback such 
that it would be clear and understandable.  Whether you do so is your 
choice, of course.

> You are an implementer and you are on the CSS WG.

Please get your facts straight.  (Hint: I'm not on the CSS WG.)

> I represent the web design community.

Self-appointed, eh?  Or do you mean that you are one of the members of 
said community and that your feedback should be weighed along with other 
feedback from other members?

No one's out to ignore feedback, but basic communication skills help in 
getting people to understand the feedback and act on it.

> I am talking about using CSS in a real CSS layout.

And you're the lone voice in the wilderness here, right?

> The CSS mass test suite does not reflect real world cases.

That's very possible, yes.  I believe this is the first time you've 
mentioned this point, and it might be worth starting a thread dedicated 
to it.  Possibly even on the right mailing list (hint: www-style is not 
the best mailing list for the CSS test suite, which has its own 
dedicated mailing list: public-css-testsuite@w3.org).

-Boris

P.S.  This should have been private, since once again it's basically 
irrelevant to everyone else on this list, but since all my private mails 
will just be reposted to the list...
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