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Re: WebFonts ready for use

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:59:09 -0700
Cc: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Message-Id: <95056C35-79CC-4B7D-8D88-3F242BA94306@apple.com>
To: Paul Nelson (ATC) <paulnel@winse.microsoft.com>

Hi Paul,

On Apr 21, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Paul Nelson (ATC) wrote:

> Based on discussions with font developers who are up to speed on the  
> technology, they view this as a threat that they intend to treat  
> like any other public posting of their IP to the Web. So they will  
> deal with each occurrence the old fashioned way with cease and  
> desist notices. A few non-traditional font makers see the  
> possibility of a "market" for Web fonts, but no one really has any  
> concrete ideas on a business model.
> The main concern voiced is "casual piracy" where the average person  
> simply uses or has fonts installed by web pages without realizing  
> that the UA was just being "helpful".

As far as I know, none of the UAs that Håkon mentioned will allow  
"install" fonts fonts for use beyond the web page. Safari/WebKit in  
particular activates the font in-memory and only makes it available to  
the page referencing it via CSS. Nothing is installed on the system in  
a permanent way, so no possibility of "casual piracy" by end users is  
created. I hope you will correct this apparent misunderstanding among  
font developers.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On  
> Behalf Of Håkon Wium Lie
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:23 AM
> To: www-style@w3.org
> Subject: WebFonts ready for use
> I'm happy to see the discussions on WebFonts. I also think it's
> important that people on this list start playing with WebFonts. There
> are now three implementations that allow you to use common font
> formats with WebFonts:
>  http://www.apple.com/safari/
>  http://www.princexml.com/
>  http://labs.opera.com/news/2008/03/28/
> Here are some more pages that use WebFonts:
>  http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2008/webfonts/
>  http://www.princexml.com/samples/
>  http://people.opera.com/howcome/2008/ooxml/iso.html
>  http://people.opera.com/howcome/2008/ooxml/iso.pdf
> Cheers,
> -h&kon
>              Håkon Wium Lie                          CTO °þe®ª
> howcome@opera.com                  http://people.opera.com/howcome
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