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Re: Browser support for downloadable fonts in CSS

From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:42:29 +0000
To: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Cc: www-style@w3.org
Message-ID: <auto-000019615480@umail.ru>
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 19:38, Chris Lilley wrote:
|   On Friday, February 01, 2002, 12:43:16 AM, Kynn wrote:
|   KB> Anyone got a good reference on which browsers support downloadable
|   KB> fonts as per the CSS level 2 specification?

I apologize in advance for asking, but:
 Does it makes sense to add (or unify) support for CSS2 Fonts, when CSS3 
specification is already in progress?
Chris Lilley, I guess you mentioned Panose.
But, many computer graphics/fonts experts recognized that panose is not very 
good for doing font identification.
My personal opinion on font identification: HStem/VStem values are much 
better than Panose.
But, frankly speaking, I am not aware about any browser implementation 
supporting HStem/VStem properties in CSS.

|   The term for such support is WebFonts. The following I am aware of,
|   additions welcomed:
|   Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows, version 4+
|     - formats supported: weft (.eot)
|   Microsoft Internet Explorer for mac, version 5+ (I believe - please
| confirm) - formats supported: weft (.eot)
|   Adobe SVG Viewer, version 2
|     - formats supported: cef (.cef)
|   Adobe SVG Viewer, version 3+
|     - formats supported: svg (.svg, .svgz), cef (.cef)
|   CSIRO SVG Java toolkit, versions in the last 18 months
|     - formats supported: svg (.svg, .svgz)
|   Batik SVG toolkit
|     - formats supported: svg (.svg, .svgz)
|   XSmiles multi-namespace SVG browser
|     - formats supported: svg (.svg, .svgz)

And all of them are non-standard fonts...
In addition AFAIK SVG fonts do not have any hints, and there is no SVG 
implementation which has auto-hinting capability.
[and, without hints, fonts are not suitable to be displayed at low-res, less 
than 300dpi, devices]

I just wonder if someone created a browser (User Agent) which can support 
normal TrueType (.tff) or PS Type1 (.pfb) fonts?
Typical scenario: you click on page, browser downloads TTF font, installs it, 
and page can be displayed with best-to-view font.

Vadim Plessky
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Received on Thursday, 7 February 2002 09:36:38 UTC

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