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Re: Serving generic XML (was: storing info in XSL-FO: new issue?)

From: C.Bottelier <c.bottelier@ITsec.nl>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:19:57 +0200
Message-ID: <3D61ED9D.E3509090@ITsec.nl>
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Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> >Right, because most Web authors are like you, and say "fuck the blind!"
> >
> >That's why WAI will be ignored, because the vast majority of Web
> >developers are ignorant, uncaring, and proud of being so.
> Now you're being offensive. I never said anything like that, not even
> close. Just because I think your tactics are incorrect in some
> respects, does not mean I disagree with your goals.

Ne is right in his statement although maybe not as a comment to your
comments. Most web authors I've confronted with the 'what if a disabled
person or someone with a browser not beeing on a PC with a large screen
want to see your page' kind of questing, either reply 'fuck them, I can
spend my time better than thinking about them', or 'if you can't see
you should not be on the web, they should be at home knitting orso', or
'the group is too small, I don't care about minorities'. What they
hee is that the web *IS* their place. Without the help of other people
translating the daily paper to braile or reading i to them they won't
be able to 'read' the paper. Product brochures, manuals, etc... all
have to be either translated or read to them. The web would be the only
place for them to gather information on their wn. I call those web
more than only ignorent.

> >See, this is where you are simply continuing to show your ignorance.  The
> >idea that some magical special needs software can solve all the problems
> >is one of the big myths of Web accessibility.  "Oh, it's not our problem,
> >some non-existent software which, by definition, can't do the job, will
> >come along and solve everything!"
> >
> >Software such as you describe simply can't be written, especially not
> >with arbitrary XML spilling over the Web.  Yes, I know, "fuck the
> >blind" and all, they don't deserve to access the Web anyway.
> To be blunt, I don't believe you. I think it can and will be written.

I agree with you on this. Software will be written about the time
computer are more powerful. That is powerfull enough to run neuro-fuzzy

Christian Bottelier
Received on Tuesday, 20 August 2002 03:20:02 UTC

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