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Re: How is it possible to devise such a feeble system?

From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:44:00 +0000
Message-Id: <200110242336.f9ONaNH15016@post.cnt.ru>
To: Dylan Schiemann <dylans@yahoo.com>
Cc: www-style@w3.org
On Wednesday 24 October 2001 22:30, Dylan Schiemann wrote:
|   --- Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru> wrote:
|   > TABLEs is evil!  We should avoid them, either in
|   > HTML or in XML.
|   > DIV/SPAN, with display: block, inline, inline-block,
|   > is much more clean way
|   > to do formatting.
|   > Especially in simple cases, like Jesse exposured.
|   > See also my testcase.
|
|   Tables are not evil.  A table is a valid structure for
|   describing data that is correlated in two-dimensions.
|   Lists are a similarly valid structure for
|   1-dimensional correlations.  3 and greater dimension
|   correlations unfortunately are not easily described in
|   2-d, so we usually take a cross-section that shows two
|   variables with all other parameters held constant...
|   also know as a table.

oh, thanks for reminder: lists are evil, too! ;-)

IMO table is a *structure* of document, not *data visualization*
So, if DOM specs manage tables - it's ok with me
You can store tables in XML or where you want.

But, for the heaven's sake, why we should take this legace stuff into CSS3?
We should not, IMO. 
|
|   It is considered bad practice to use tables to layout
|   a web site, but not to describe table data.  Support

Agree.
XML is a right way to store tables.
Than you apply CSS stylesheet on such table, and get *right* layout
but display: table-cell, table-row, table should be dropped from specs, IMO.

|   for tables should not be discouraged because web
|   develoeprs have resorted to exploiting them when
|   browser vendors struggled to provide a non-buggy
|   alternative.  There is a valid need for a table data
|   structure, just as there are needs for lists.
|
|   -Dylan Schiemann
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|   http://www.dylanschiemann.com/
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