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Re: URI: Name or Network Location?

From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:08:54 +0200
Message-Id: <253CBB80-5243-11D8-8766-000A95EAFCEA@nokia.com>
Cc: "'Phil Dawes'" <pdawes@users.sourceforge.net>, "'Nikita Ogievetsky'" <nogievet@cogx.com>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
To: "ext Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)" <T.Hammond@elsevier.com>


On Jan 28, 2004, at 13:48, ext Hammond, Tony (ELSLON) wrote:

> With these identifiers, we can then make the following set of 
> assertions
> about the information asset whose PII is "S0888-7543(02)96852-7":
>
>   <rdf:Description about="info:pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7">
>     <dc:title>Localization and analysis of the principal promoter
>       for human tenascin-X.</dc:title>
>     <dc:creator>Wijesuriy SD</dc:creator>
>     <dc:creator>Bristow J</dc:creator>
>     <dc:creator>Miller WL</dc:creator>
>     <dc:identifier>info:doi/10.1006/geno.2002.6852</dc:identifier>
>     <dc:source>Genomics. 2002 Oct;80(4):443-52</dc:source>
>     <dc:date>2002-10-01</dc:date>
>     <prism:publicationName>Genomics</prism:publicationName>
>     <prism:publicationDate>2002-10-01</prism:publicationDate>
>     <prism:volume>80</prism:volume>
>     <prism:number>4</prism:number>
>     <prism:startingPage>443</prism:startingPage>
>   </rdf:Description>
>
>

Great.

Yet if you used http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7 instead
and had a URIQA enlightened server at info-uri.org, then one could
(potentially) make the request:

    MGET http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7 HTTP/1.0

and/or if one configured that server to provide resource
descriptions in response to GET requests, e.g.:

    GET http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7 HTTP/1.0

such that clients would get back that description as a response, e.g.

   <rdf:Description 
about="http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7">
     <dc:title>Localization and analysis of the principal promoter
       for human tenascin-X.</dc:title>
     <dc:creator>Wijesuriy SD</dc:creator>
     <dc:creator>Bristow J</dc:creator>
     <dc:creator>Miller WL</dc:creator>
     <dc:identifier>info:doi/10.1006/geno.2002.6852</dc:identifier>
     <dc:source>Genomics. 2002 Oct;80(4):443-52</dc:source>
     <dc:date>2002-10-01</dc:date>
     <prism:publicationName>Genomics</prism:publicationName>
     <prism:publicationDate>2002-10-01</prism:publicationDate>
     <prism:volume>80</prism:volume>
     <prism:number>4</prism:number>
     <prism:startingPage>443</prism:startingPage>
   </rdf:Description>

Now, wouldn't that be alot more useful than a info: URI that leaves
the client deaf, dumb, and blind?

Patrick

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
>> [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Phil Dawes
>> Sent: 28 January 2004 02:32
>> To: Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)
>> Cc: 'Nikita Ogievetsky'; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: URI: Name or Network Location?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Unless I'm mistaken, hasn't Nikita has just dereferenced the
>> info:pii/s0888-7543(02)96852-7 URI using the 'Email Tony Hammond'
>> protocol and got some information on it? ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> Hammond, Tony (ELSLON) writes:
>>>
>>> Hi Nikita:
>>>
>>> pii = Publisher Item Identifier
>>>
>>> One link for this is giving a brief one-page overview is at
>>> <http://www.aip.org/epub/piipr.html>. (I'm not quite sure where the
>>> defintive spec is housed these days.)
>>>
>>> 	"A Publisher Item Identifier (PII) to provide unique and concise
>>> identification of individual published documents has been
>> adopted by the
>>> American Chemical Society, American Institute of Physics,
>> American Physical
>>> Society, Elsevier Science, and IEEE. The PII will begin to
>> appear in the
>>> journals of these publishers from January 1996. Use of the
>> PII is intended
>>> to provide a simple means of document identification which
>> is needed in a
>>> digital environment."
>>>
>>> The PII is now largely superseded by the DOI (or Digital
>> Object Identifier),
>>> see <http://www.doi.org>, although it is still being used by some
>>> publishers.
>>>
>>> Why not a URN? See the FAQ:
>>>
>>> 	http://www2.elsevier.co.uk/~tony/info/info.html#use_urn
>>>
>>> Hope that helps some,
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
>>>> [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of
>> Nikita Ogievetsky
>>>> Sent: 23 January 2004 12:38
>>>> To: 'Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)'
>>>> Cc: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
>>>> Subject: RE: URI: Name or Network Location?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony,
>>>>
>>>> A quick question.
>>>> Lets take an example from FAQ [1]:
>>>>
>>>> info:pii/s0888-7543(02)96852-7
>>>>
>>>> What is "pii" namespace?
>>>> Where is it defined? - I missed this when briefly browsing docs.
>>>> Does it stand for "primary internet interests" or "private
>>>> intimate ideas"?
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> BTW: why not URN scheme?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www2.elsevier.co.uk/~tony/info/info.html
>>>>
>>>> --Nikita
>>>>
>>
>
>

--

Patrick Stickler
Nokia, Finland
patrick.stickler@nokia.com
Received on Thursday, 29 January 2004 05:09:34 GMT

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