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AW: URI: Name or Network Location?

From: Leo Sauermann <leo@gnowsis.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:21:05 +0100
To: "'Patrick Stickler'" <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>, "'ext Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)'" <T.Hammond@elsevier.com>
Cc: "'Phil Dawes'" <pdawes@users.sourceforge.net>, "'Nikita Ogievetsky'" <nogievet@cogx.com>, <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000a01c3e723$26ea5970$1601a8c0@Bundeslade>

That sounds really more practical approach.

btw, this can be extended to things like:

http://www.isbn.org/isbn/0679600108

and whatever you like.

I am on the side of "URL" that may be a "URI" if the server is down....

greetings
Leo

Patrick Stickler wrote:
> Great.
> 
> Yet if you used http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7 
> instead and had a URIQA enlightened server at info-uri.org, 
> then one could
> (potentially) make the request:
> 
>     MGET http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7 HTTP/1.0
> 
> and/or if one configured that server to provide resource 
> descriptions in response to GET requests, e.g.:
> 
>     GET http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7 HTTP/1.0
> 
> such that clients would get back that description as a response, e.g.
> 
>    <rdf:Description 
> about="http://info-uri.org/pii/S0888-7543(02)96852-7">
>      <dc:title>Localization and analysis of the principal promoter
>        for human tenascin-X.</dc:title>
>      <dc:creator>Wijesuriy SD</dc:creator>
>      <dc:creator>Bristow J</dc:creator>
>      <dc:creator>Miller WL</dc:creator>
>      <dc:identifier>info:doi/10.1006/geno.2002.6852</dc:identifier>
>      <dc:source>Genomics. 2002 Oct;80(4):443-52</dc:source>
>      <dc:date>2002-10-01</dc:date>
>      <prism:publicationName>Genomics</prism:publicationName>
>      <prism:publicationDate>2002-10-01</prism:publicationDate>
>      <prism:volume>80</prism:volume>
>      <prism:number>4</prism:number>
>      <prism:startingPage>443</prism:startingPage>
>    </rdf:Description>
> 
> Now, wouldn't that be alot more useful than a info: URI that 
> leaves the client deaf, dumb, and blind?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org 
> >> [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Phil Dawes
> >> Sent: 28 January 2004 02:32
> >> To: Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)
> >> Cc: 'Nikita Ogievetsky'; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> >> Subject: RE: URI: Name or Network Location?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Tony,
> >>
> >> Unless I'm mistaken, hasn't Nikita has just dereferenced the 
> >> info:pii/s0888-7543(02)96852-7 URI using the 'Email Tony Hammond' 
> >> protocol and got some information on it? ;-)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hammond, Tony (ELSLON) writes:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Nikita:
> >>>
> >>> pii = Publisher Item Identifier
> >>>
> >>> One link for this is giving a brief one-page overview is at 
> >>> <http://www.aip.org/epub/piipr.html>. (I'm not quite sure 
> where the 
> >>> defintive spec is housed these days.)
> >>>
> >>> 	"A Publisher Item Identifier (PII) to provide unique 
> and concise 
> >>> identification of individual published documents has been
> >> adopted by the
> >>> American Chemical Society, American Institute of Physics,
> >> American Physical
> >>> Society, Elsevier Science, and IEEE. The PII will begin to
> >> appear in the
> >>> journals of these publishers from January 1996. Use of the
> >> PII is intended
> >>> to provide a simple means of document identification which
> >> is needed in a
> >>> digital environment."
> >>>
> >>> The PII is now largely superseded by the DOI (or Digital
> >> Object Identifier),
> >>> see <http://www.doi.org>, although it is still being used by some 
> >>> publishers.
> >>>
> >>> Why not a URN? See the FAQ:
> >>>
> >>> 	http://www2.elsevier.co.uk/~tony/info/info.html#use_urn
> >>>
> >>> Hope that helps some,
> >>>
> >>> Tony
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org 
> >>>> [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of
> >> Nikita Ogievetsky
> >>>> Sent: 23 January 2004 12:38
> >>>> To: 'Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)'
> >>>> Cc: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> >>>> Subject: RE: URI: Name or Network Location?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tony,
> >>>>
> >>>> A quick question.
> >>>> Lets take an example from FAQ [1]:
> >>>>
> >>>> info:pii/s0888-7543(02)96852-7
> >>>>
> >>>> What is "pii" namespace?
> >>>> Where is it defined? - I missed this when briefly browsing docs. 
> >>>> Does it stand for "primary internet interests" or 
> "private intimate 
> >>>> ideas"?
> >>>> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW: why not URN scheme?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://www2.elsevier.co.uk/~tony/info/info.html
> >>>>
> >>>> --Nikita
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> --
> 
> Patrick Stickler
> Nokia, Finland
> patrick.stickler@nokia.com
> 
Received on Friday, 30 January 2004 06:22:45 GMT

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