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RE: Disambiguation; keeping the "U" in "URI"

From: Joshua Allen <joshuaa@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:18:05 -0700
Message-ID: <4F4182C71C1FDD4BA0937A7EB7B8B4C104F05A04@red-msg-08.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "Danny Ayers" <danny666@virgilio.it>, <msabin@interx.com>, <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
I like this solution.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Ayers [mailto:danny666@virgilio.it]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:58 PM
> To: msabin@interx.com; www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> 
> [thread blend]
> 
> Probably a point of philosophy, but I don't think it is possible in
any
> communication to truly resolve some of the underlying issues.
> 
> What is possible in practice is to use metadata to remove ambiguity
> relating
> to assertions that use URIs, by reference to humanly agreed
definitions
> which have unique labels, e.g.
> 
> http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/#Creator
> 
> This refers to "the name of the person or organization primarily
> responsible
> for creating the intellectual content" of something, so if I state
that
> 
> http://www.markbaker.ca/index.html dc:Creator
> http://www.markbaker.ca/index.html
> 
> then it can inferred that one of these is a person or organisation and
the
> other something with intellectual content. No conflict.
> 
> I reckon it's counting angels [1] to try and sort the precise nature
of a
> URI out, when mechanisms exist that allow us to use the things.
> 
> Cheers,
> Danny.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.citnames.com/2001/misc/angels.htm
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
> >[mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Miles Sabin
> >Sent: 24 April 2002 22:28
> >To: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> >Subject: RE: Disambiguation; keeping the "U" in "URI"
> >
> >
> >Mark Baker wrote,
> >> Nick Matsakis wrote:
> >> > I don't understand what you mean by this.  What should the
> >> > "Content-Location" be on an http request for the (person)
> >> > http://www.markbaker.ca ?  "Sitting in his office chair" ?
> >>
> >> "http://www.markbaker.ca/index.html"
> >
> >This is where Mark and I differ. This new URI may indeed be yet
> >another of Marks aliases, but it _also_ designates, in the context of
> >a GET, a document with information associated with Mark. IOW, this
use
> >of Content-Location: wrt http://www.markbaker.ca hasn't resolved the
> >original ambiguity between Mark and a document, it's just set us off
> >chasing Content-Location: pointers ad nauseam. That's unhelpful IMO.
> >
> >I'm happy with the use of Content-Location: as a mechanism for
> >resolving ambiguity between retrievable referents (eg. for variant
> >representation selection), but it doesn't solve the whole problem.
> >
> >FWIW, I was half expecting Marks response to Nicks question to be
> >something like "Sitting in his office chair", using some kind of
> >geolocation URI scheme (is there one?). Also, IMO, not very helpful,
> >but more obviously consistent with his position wrt Content-Location:
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >
> >Miles
> >
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