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Re: TCDL preview for f2f

From: Sandra Martinez <sandra.martinez@nist.gov>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:47:42 -0500
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To: david_marston@us.ibm.com
Cc: www-qa-wg@w3.org

Some comments on TCDL;
         - If this document is to be considered complementary material and 
practices to the QA guidelines, so far, the relationship to SpecGl is 
captured but the relationship to TestGl is not (Would it be captured later?)

         - It is imperative for this document as well as TestGl that a 
definition of test material be included in the QA glossary.

         - Are you referring to the test developers when using WG?

         - The use of this document by the WG (test developer) seems under 
estimated in the document.

         - The document could also be used as means of capturing testcase 
contributions by other test developers.

         - The document could also support packaging the test materials for 
public release including documentation.

         - In section 1.1 paragraph three, additional information was 
provided to expand on maintenance activities but no information was 
provided to expand on test material development.

         - Recommend including a list of mandatory/optional elements and 
attributes allowed in a TCDL document.

          - Strongly suggest keeping the document simple.



At 10:37 AM 10/17/2003 -0600, Lofton Henderson wrote:

>QAWG participants --
>*** Please wait for next draft (Monday 10/20) before commenting on this! ***
>Reason.  An improved and clarified draft exists, and hopefully will be 
>circulated Monday (10/20).  Dave already sent it to me.  But I failed to 
>get the attachment from my mail server before it was scrubbed, and Dave is 
>on vacation this week (so I can't have it resent).
>TCDL:  Test Case Description Language.  At Heraklion f2f, QAWG/IG 
>encouraged Dave to develop a proposal in some detail.  This is it.  When 
>Dave sent me the new version (which I lost), he attached this (partial) 
>>"This draft shows the general organization of the TCDL 1.0 document. I
>>called it 1.0 to pave the way for a committee-written version in the
>>future, should it prove necessary after more extensive field use.
>>Nevertheless, I think the full TCDL 1.0 will apply to a broad range of
>>classes of product and will also suffice for large suites that last over
>>several versions of their target specs. The ultimate document will be
>>about 6-8 times as large as this, mostly in chapters 3 and 4. An example
>>section of chapters 2 and 3 is provided, but no section anywhere in the
>>document should be assumed to be at full length. Sections of chapter 1 are
>>nearly full length, at least in my view. My main question for the WG right
>>now: is this document likely to serve for at least a couple years, so tha t
>>QAWG can turn its attention to complementary material and practices?"
>The previous version (soon to be superseded) is at:
>This clearly intersects some TestGL topics.  I'm circulating the old draft 
>now, new draft next week (just before f2f), so that you can start thinking 
>about how they relate.  The new draft develops a number of the subsections 
>in greater detail, which should help to clarify any questions about what 
>is intended in the many TBD ("!!!") places.

Sandra I. Martinez
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