From: Bruce Miller <bruce.miller@nist.gov>

Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:46:45 -0400

Message-ID: <40A95CF5.5030601@nist.gov>

To: www-math@w3.org

Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:46:45 -0400

Message-ID: <40A95CF5.5030601@nist.gov>

To: www-math@w3.org

Paul Libbrecht wrote: > > > On 14-May-04, at 07:04 Uhr, Bruce Miller wrote: > >> (b2) to do just enough that mathematics can be presented, but that >> some/most MathML would have to be simplified before CSS stylesheets >> could describe it's presentation? > > > This approach is seducing, it lets presentation-process-developers hope > for the ability to as much dynamic-HTML with formulae than what can be > done (sort of) in current browsers. > > And at the same time, accepting this would at least mean we abandon the > content-side of MathML. Where would we find, then, such great things as > synchronized content and presentation subtrees ? (this should all be > XHTML, SVG, or other CSS-supporting-platfom). My initial fear in the (b1)-(b2) scale was implicitly defining a bastardized subset of Presentation MathML, but some of the things that David & Robert have pointed out give hope that enough can be done with XSLT and/or Javascript to complete the coverage. Even so, that doesn't hold much appeal if each author has to send some cleverly contrived stylesheets & scripts to each unique browser; that seems negative progress! It _is_ appealing if an UA implementer would feel compelled to add a few features to thier CSS implementation and supply thier _own_ meta-stylesheet that fills in the gaps for thier particular browser. Then, authors simply serve normal MathML and everything happens like it should. [I wonder if Ian is listenning in, and what he thinks of the idea?] > Moreover, the "mathematical" nature of the math subtrees would be lost. > This would mean that copy and paste would be even more random and may be > an issue for accessibility... unless content (semantic) data would be > made available. This could still be an issue depending on whether `cut and paste' would get you the original MathML or the digested MathML. -- bruce.miller@nist.gov http://math.nist.gov/~BMiller/Received on Monday, 17 May 2004 20:47:17 UTC

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