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[Fwd: [Moderator Action] RE: Pen-gesture keyboard for Hindi]

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 01:19:17 +0900
Message-ID: <443FCB85.5020802@w3.org>
To: 'WWW International' <www-international@w3.org>
Cc: md@ictenterprise.co.uk
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- Felix

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Perhaps speed is a factor in this new product.  Is it faster to write or put
together key combinations for the characters?

Certainly, as a tool to aid education I think it may be very useful.  India
is a large market so even if it addresses a need within a niche it will be
successful IMHO.

Best regards

Debbie Garside 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-international-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:www-international-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
> Sent: 13 April 2006 14:44
> To: Goutam Kumar Saha
> Cc: bruno.girin@cambista.com; cambista@triskeltech.co.uk; 
> Martin Duerst; www-international@w3.org; www-multimodal@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Pen-gesture keyboard for Hindi
> 
> 
> With few exceptions, it is pretty transparent which 
> characters are typed to compose which syllables. And those 
> same pieces are the ones that you can see on the tablet. The 
> only real advantage of the tablet, that I can see, is that 
> the choices can be more dynamically presented -- on the other 
> hand, we've seen lot's of tablet technology being hyped as 
> innovative, then sink like a stone in the market.
> 
> But perhaps I'm wrong; there's little point to arguing this 
> -- let's just wait and look back in a year from now and see 
> how successful this is.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Goutam Kumar Saha wrote:
> > This is for general information that Hindi, Bengali and most of the 
> > other Indian Languages'  written form is based on syllables and we 
> > need to learn what combination of keys on a keyboard 
> produce each syllable.
> >
> > Regards-- Goutam Saha
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruno Girin (Cambista)" <cambista@triskeltech.co.uk>
> > To: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
> > Cc: "Martin Duerst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>; "Chris Lilley" 
> > <chris@w3.org>; <www-international@w3.org>; <www-multimodal@w3.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pen-gesture keyboard for Hindi
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Not if you consider that, according to the articles, it is 
> meant to 
> >> be used by people who have never used a traditional 
> western keyboard 
> >> and have probably spent all their lives thinking in 
> grapheme clusters 
> >> rather than individual letters, when they write. I don't know 
> >> anything about Hindi but I assume that if the language's 
> written form 
> >> is based on syllables, having to learn what combination of 
> keys on a 
> >> keyboard produce each syllable can be a hurdle in educating people 
> >> about computers because they have to first learn a brand 
> new way to 
> >> write their own language.
> >>
> >> What I find interesting about this, if I follow the article 
> >> correctly, is that it provides a fresh look at data input for 
> >> languages that are not alphabet-based and are typically 
> difficult to input using a keyboard.
> >>
> >> Maybe it will never prove to be a viable alternative but having 
> >> someone consider any alternative is good IMHO.
> >>
> >> Mark Davis wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Right, but nobody ever used a 1000 key keyboard for Hindi, so the 
> >>> "news" about it replacing the need for it is a red herring.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> Martin Duerst wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> At 02:17 06/04/12, Mark Davis wrote:
> >>>>         
> >>>>> It looks very overblown to me; saw a news report about 
> "a process
> >>>>>           
> >>>> that would require up to 1,000 keys using a traditional keyboard"
> >>>> which is bizarre for Indic.
> >>>>
> >>>> That range of number suggests that they are thinking 
> about Hindi in 
> >>>> terms of syllables, treating each grapheme cluster as a unit.
> >>>> In practice, there are about 1000-3000 such clusters in 
> practical use.
> >>>>
> >>>> But this is just a guess.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,   Martin.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris Lilley wrote:
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Hello ,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I thought this might be interesting, partly for the I18n aspect
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> and partly for the pen-based, gesture modality of text entry.
> >>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> > 
> http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/07/hp-provides-deets-on-gesture-keyboa
> > rd/
> >   
> > 
> http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/17/hp-indias-gesture-keyboard-for-pen-
> > entry/
> >   
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>
> >>
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