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Re: Web-Forms 2.0: upload. Button apperance

From: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:36:09 +0100
Message-ID: <4646EA19.3000605@david-woolley.me.uk>
To: www-html@w3.org

Anatoly Kataev wrote:
> Can you list some of them? I have slow connection and cannot dig 
> through  www-style

mailto:www-style-request@w3.org?subject=subscribe

You will need to ask the question before you get any replies!

> Preudo-classes don't allow me to set caption on "Browse..." button

But you are trying to solve the wrong problem.  The real problem is 
correctly localising the software.

>

> Not all librarians are good :^)

True, but that only really affects the expatriate case, and there is an 
argument that such people ought to be trying to learn the host language, 
anyway.

> Not only designers. Many of customers don't want their sites looks like 
> FreeBSD Handbook.

Their acting as designers.  Yes, it is unfortunate that the concept of 
following user interface guidelines seems to have been abandoned in the 
current fashion conscious world.  Looking like the FreeBSD handbook 
means that someone who understands that can use the site.  Generally, if 
you have an audience that is comfortable with non-standard user 
interface styling they may even find the odd English word to be part of 
the page branding!

This is a problem in the West, but I suspect it is even more of a 
problem in Russia because of your relatively recent change from a 
planned to a free economy.  Unfortunately following standards has 
similar connotations to living in a planned economy.
> 
> And also look at
> http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html

That page confuses needs and wants.  It didn't need that styling; that 
was an externally imposed want that had nothing to do with whether the 
page functioned properly.  Again, this is covered by CSS, but it is also 
an area where there is still scope for browsers to establish a market, 
in terms of additional capabilities.  Unfortunately, when they do so, 
authors forget that their page should work on all browsers that meet the 
standards.

> It's only way to stylize INPUT i know
> Do you think it's easy way? Do you think that authors of this arcticle 
> have nothing to do, else as write useless articles?

There is a big demand for this sort of thing, but it mostly comes from 
people who want to produce a particular visual effect, but for some 
reason don't want to use tools that are designed for precise visual 
control, and who don't understand the philosophy behind the HTML 
standards.  If they want precise control of appearance and behaviour, 
without using native code, they should probably be using .NET CLR or Java.
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