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Re: hr, fieldset, legend, sub, sup not to be removed XHTML Basic

From: Asbjørn Ulsberg <asbjorn@tigerstaden.no>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:58:00 +0100
To: "Rimantas Liubertas" <ic@rimantas.com>
Cc: "HTML List" <www-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <opsgwhiyweuvpchu@quark>

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:04:48 +0000, Rimantas Liubertas <ic@rimantas.com>  

> While I agree that legend, fieldset, sub and sup have semantic value I  
> fail to see it in hr. "Horisontal ruler" - can it be more presentational
> than this?

I agree that by design, <hr> is presentational. But it needn't be.  
Semantically «horisontal ruler» doesn't mean much, but it can mean  
«separation» in some form.

Thus would it be much more natural to call the element <sep> or something  
like that, especially in HTML where you don't have <section> elements to  
wrap parts of the document together. You could of course do this with the  
<div> element, but that's just clunky and with even less semantics than  

I don't think <hr> is very useful in XHTML 2.0, but in XHTML 1.x and HTML  
it certainly was, to some respect. Not just as a visual horisontal ruler,  
but also as a content separator or divider.

Asbjørn Ulsberg         -=|=-        asbjornu@hotmail.com
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