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Re: Should encoding of site structure be standardized?

From: Øystein Ingmar Skartsæterhagen <goystein_goy@yahoo.no>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 03:09:52 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <20030302020952.28777.qmail@web41605.mail.yahoo.com>
To: www-html@w3.org

 --- Jared Warren <warren@cs.queensu.ca> skrev: > 
> Your site navigation features are provided by RDF
> Site Summary
> <http://web.resource.org/rss/1.0/spec> which is
> currently implemented in
> Mozilla.

Can you give me some examples of sites using RSS for
this purpose? There were only a few examples in the
specification, and it seemed that defining "sites" was
not the primary goal of RSS. Also: why isn't there a
W3C recommendation for this? Is RSS seen as a standard
specification that UAs should implement, or is it just
a proposal for one possible way of doing this?

What is actually RSS meant for? What I asked for, is a
way of stating "this is a site", together with links
to the pages in the site (sitemap) and general site
content (headings etc). While it might be able to
perform the other tasks, RSS does not define anything
to be a "site" (note that I use the term site as a
bunch of pages belonging together, not necessarily
being placed in the same domain or being the only
pages in one domain). And what I want to know: Do we
need a way of specifically defining sites?

> As for page elements like headers and
> navigation bars, these
> can currently be modularised by using Server Side
> Includes or a more
> powerful preprocessing language (PHP is a popular
> choice) or IFRAMEs* --
> however doing it properly will require fully
> processed generated styles
> (eg: the content attrib) as are planned for CSS3.

Would CSS be the properly way of doing this? As I have
understood it, we can never rely on our CSS
stylesheets being used by the UA, and I think these
things (site headers etc) are so important to the
pages that we can not leave them to some stylesheet
that _might_ be used.

Althogh these things in any case seems to be a job
which should be done by other languages than XHTML, I
believe it should be stated in the XHTML specification
how UAs are meant to retrieve and present such data,
as it highly influences the way we write our XHTML
pages.




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