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Re: escaping escaping

From: Gannon J. Dick <gdick@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:02:37 -0600
Message-ID: <000801c29bc7$b62a0700$6ad42e04@home2>
To: <www-html@w3.org>

> discussion of the deliberately broken behaviour of a market leading
browser is off topic here!
I couldn't agree more, except to say I wish they wern't so crafty at it.
Which is why agreement
should be reached about a standard way to embed XML etc. documents in XHTML
An 'Executive Summary' XHTML wrapper (viewable in a browser) would be very
helpful in some
circumstances.  SOAP is good, but not presentable.  One gets tired of
explaining to pointy-haired
persons exactly what they are looking at.

 ENTITY's are cumbersome with XSD Schema, and I am wary of scripts or
embedded objects.
Anyone who likes Pop-Ups and Pop-Unders etc. feel free to jump in here.   In
addition, I consider
automatic but obscure installation worrisome, as in "Give us your computer
for 10 minutes and we'll
fix it the way we like it".

--Gannon J. Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
To: <www-html@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: escaping escaping

> > Well I'll be darn'ed.  I never thought this would work
> It's well formed, but I'm not sure that it is valid.  Valid XHTML
> depends on obeying rules that can't be specified in DTDs.  You can't
> of course, represent a CDATA section in this way, and you will still
> have gone through a translation from transfer character set to
> UCS-4 and from UCS-4 to the display font encoding.
> Personally, I see no hardship in using entities (not escapes), but the
> other logical way of doing this is to include a plain text resource
> as the contents of an object element (this relies on your browser
> honouring MIME media types, which is something that has to be assumed
> here, as that's what the standards require; discussion of the deliberately
> broken behaviour of a market leading browser is off topic here!)
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