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Re: Fw: Recently published documents

From: Nicholas Atkinson <nik@casawana.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:29:06 +0100
Message-ID: <021e01c23e27$4cf115b0$0300000a@natkinwkstn>
To: "Johannes Koch" <koch@pixelpark.com>
Cc: <www-html@w3.org>

No.  You are incorrect.  Netscape 4.7 requires the embed element within the
object element.

Recent versions of Mozilla and Opera do as well, whatever may be "in the
wings".

Hence my point.

nik


----- Original Message -----
From: "Johannes Koch" <koch@pixelpark.com>
To: "Nicholas Atkinson" <nik@casawana.com>
Cc: <www-html@w3.org>
Sent: 07 August 2002 09:01
Subject: Re: Fw: Recently published documents


>
> Nicholas Atkinson wrote:
> > That's interesting information Jonny, thank you.  I will look forward to
> > that.  Very interesting.
> >
> > However, are you familiar with the expression "jam tomorrow"?!  ;-)
> >
> > Why can't the necessary declarations be added to XHTML 1.0 so that
documents
> > containing EMBED (and PARAM etc.) elements can be validated, *today*.
> > [Given that the Object tag is not widely supported today, or on legacy
> > browsers.]
>
> The object element (used for for Flash integration) is at least
> supported by Netscape 4.7+, IE 5+ and Opera 6.04 (tested on Win).
>
> > It would take me approximately _five_ minutes to add the necessary
> > declarations to XHTML 1.0.  If that.
>
> I don't think that the XHTML 1.0 specification can be changed in that
> way. It's not just an erratum to add an element with its attributes.
>
> > The only practical option for an authoring tool creator/vendor who
offers
> > validation, today, is to bundle a DTD of their own construction which is
a
> > "superset" of the "official" XHTML 1.0 one (or to bundle the official
one
> > and wait for a flood of support calls!).   And bundling a superset one,
as I
> > see it, defeats the purpose of having a "common" DTD to validate
against.
>
> As I told you (in private mail), the HTML Specs are _not_ for legalizing
> each and every element/attribute invented by some browser vendor just to
> validate every tag soup document on the web. Documents should be written
> according to the specs; not specs should be written according to
documents.
> --
> Johannes Koch  . IT Developer
> Pixelpark AG   . http://www.pixelpark.com
> Rotherstraße 8 . 10245 Berlin  .  Germany
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>
Received on Wednesday, 7 August 2002 11:35:35 GMT

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