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Re: Fw: Recently published documents

From: Johannes Koch <koch@pixelpark.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:01:46 +0200
Message-ID: <3D50D3EA.5090607@pixelpark.com>
To: Nicholas Atkinson <nik@casawana.com>
CC: www-html@w3.org

Nicholas Atkinson wrote:
> That's interesting information Jonny, thank you.  I will look forward to
> that.  Very interesting.
> However, are you familiar with the expression "jam tomorrow"?!  ;-)
> Why can't the necessary declarations be added to XHTML 1.0 so that documents
> containing EMBED (and PARAM etc.) elements can be validated, *today*.
> [Given that the Object tag is not widely supported today, or on legacy
> browsers.]

The object element (used for for Flash integration) is at least 
supported by Netscape 4.7+, IE 5+ and Opera 6.04 (tested on Win).

> It would take me approximately _five_ minutes to add the necessary
> declarations to XHTML 1.0.  If that.

I don't think that the XHTML 1.0 specification can be changed in that 
way. It's not just an erratum to add an element with its attributes.

> The only practical option for an authoring tool creator/vendor who offers
> validation, today, is to bundle a DTD of their own construction which is a
> "superset" of the "official" XHTML 1.0 one (or to bundle the official one
> and wait for a flood of support calls!).   And bundling a superset one, as I
> see it, defeats the purpose of having a "common" DTD to validate against.

As I told you (in private mail), the HTML Specs are _not_ for legalizing 
each and every element/attribute invented by some browser vendor just to 
validate every tag soup document on the web. Documents should be written 
according to the specs; not specs should be written according to documents.
Johannes Koch  . IT Developer
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Received on Wednesday, 7 August 2002 04:03:06 UTC

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