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Point of order!

From: Dustin Kreidler <snooky1@visto.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:18:32 -0800
Message-Id: <200102051525.KAA05765@tux.w3.org>
To: www-html@w3.org
I just want to throw something out here.  I am still 
learning the in-depth knowledge that so many of you take 
for granted, and observing you go back and forth on topics 
is usually amazingly informative.  But let me just remind 
you of the realities outside this list....

1) Businesses are still forcing their clients to browse on 
older UAs.  As someone else pointed out, Mom and Dad have 
no clue how to upgrade their browser.  While I understand, 
and even join with you, in hating the current technology, 
pinning your "solutions" on future technologies is kinda 
like saying that the cure for California's power problems 
is the development of solar and wind power.  Tell that to 
the people with no lights.  They don't care about what you 
could do with 5 years and a great big budget.  Use what you 
have and fix it now.

2) As far as cached items go, I have NO idea what 
persistant connections do in terms of caching, but i do 
know that with limited hard disk space, most people who 
know just a little about the internet (the small amount of 
knowledge that makes them dangerous) clean up their caches 
on a fairly regular basis.  The common UA's have that as an 
easy to find option.  Assuming they will keep all the 
static elements of *your* site while discarding all of the 
ad crap they get dumped on them is ludicrous.  When 
everyone can own that cool 60GB hard drive, ok.  Fine.  
Cache all of your stuff to your hearts content.  But this 
is NOT the case for Mom and Dad.

I guess the real point is this.  For their benefit, never 
assume anyone has your knowledge or experience.  Case in 
point:
  My car does not expect me to figure out exactly how much 
gas to put into the engine, or how much air to mix in, or 
how quickly to rev up the whole process.  I am presented 
with one pedal, and the car takes care of everything else 
for me.  If i were an engine engineer, i might yearn for a 
control mechanism that would be perfect for *me* to tweak 
the power and fuel consumption to my heart's delight.  But 
then, my Mom and Dad wouldn't be able to drive anywhere and 
get milk.  So what would be the point?

Ok, back to the discussion on csi vs. ssi.  thanks!

Dustin Kreidler





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www-html-d Digest				Volume 01 : 
Issue 17

Today's Topics:
	 RE: WWW: Interoperability Crisis?
	 RE: client side includes
	 RE: WWW: Interoperability Crisis?
	 RE: client side includes (fwd)
	 RE: client side includes
	 RE: client side includes (fwd)
	 Re: client side includes
	 RE: FRAMEBORDER attribute?
	 RE: client side includes (fwd)
	 Re: client side includes (fwd)
	 See things on the screen, but they don't get 
printed 
	 Re: See things on the screen, but they don't get 
printed 
	 Re: client side includes (fwd)
	 Re: client side includes (fwd)



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