Re: Header, Footer, and Sidebars

Benjamin Franz (
Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:06:02 -0800 (PST)

Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:06:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Benjamin Franz <>
To: Style Sheet mailing list <>,
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Subject: RE: Header, Footer, and Sidebars

On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Benjamin Franz wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Todd Fahrner wrote:
> > Benjamin Franz wrote, at 8:46 -0800 on 26.11.97:
> > 
> > I agree mostly about stylesheets, and generally about the need for
> > improvement, but my tests suggest that you can use OBJECT markup today in a
> > highly degradable (universally pre-degraded?) way for some cases at least.
> > In the example above, everybody but IE4 sees just normal links to the
> > referenced HTML objects, and in this instance
> > <> you see either the Flash object or a
> > GIF and some marked-up text telling you what you're missing.
> Except in the low x NS4.0x browsers where the stuff between <OBJECT>
> and </OBJECT> just disappears completely and you get...nothing. And in the
> MSIE 3.X browsers you get assailed with 'Insecure ActiveX' alerts and then
> it hangs.

Whups. Scratch that on the low x NS4.0x. It was the MSIE 4.0b browsers
with ActiveX turned off that made the content vanish (I went back and
checked my old mail - I reported this to the www-html list back in May). I
haven't tried it in the MSIE 4.0 final yet. 

Benjamin Franz