Re: What's allowed in table cells? (fwd)

MegaZone (megazone@livingston.com)
Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:50:41 -0700 (PDT) 

Message-Id: <199609250150.SAA25266@server.livingston.com>
Subject: Re: What's allowed in table cells? (fwd)
To: www-html@w3.org
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: MegaZone <megazone@livingston.com>

Once upon a time Carl Morris shaped the electrons to say...
>Yea, confusing huh?  I stoped using validators for that purpose...   I

Not at all.  I'm getting a growing feeling that you just don't care to learn
anything and you just have this thing about writing valid code.  The 
impression you've given me is a designed too lazy to deal with writing good
code.  You keep harping on the same thing "I don't understand the DTD"
"Why didn't they do it this way so I could get it?"  "I just ignore it
anyway because I don't agree with it"  That is what your statements boil
down to - an immature attitude towards standards and an unwillingness to
learn any of the history that got us to this point.  I've been working with
HTML since *before* Mosaic, maybe you should consider learning some of
the history and the path that got us to this point before going off on a
tear about things you don't understaand or don't like.

>would first exclaim that tables were designed by LYNX killers...

And you'd look like a complete moron for doing so.  Don't cry wolf when
you don't have a clue.  Go look at <http://www.livingston.com/> - I've
looked at it in Lynx, Mosaic, NS, and MSIE - and we get hits from all
those and more - and it works.  The only thing I've seen it fail in is 
XMosaic 2.6, which had a weak attempt at table support.  It didn't support
the standard, but it recognizes the tags, so it draws a garbage table.
But in other versions the tabular pages display fine, and they work fine in
Lynx too.  And all of the pages validate cleanly under HTML 3.2.

>say for certian...  There is no backwards compatibility with TABLES
>themselves ...  Also the validators seem to complain about contentless

Funny.  I've had no problems designing table that display ok in Mosaic
and Lynx - even before they got table support.  It jsut takes some *EFFORT*
and *THOUGHT* at the design phase to layout a table that will work.

You can't keep it tabular, but you can have in collapse into a list, etc,
if you know what you are doing.  And it is all perfectly valid code.

>table cells...  nothing said a cell must have content...  and from what
>I remember, a TR can contain content... but maybe i better read that
>part of 3.2 spec first?

Yeah, you should, since you look foolish talking about things you haven't
bothered to research yet.

I loved your comment about tables - paranoid for a reason or just by
nature?

-MZ
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