Re: Frames and Documents (fwd)

Benjamin Franz (snowhare@netimages.com)
Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:56:50 -0700 (PDT)


Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Benjamin Franz <snowhare@netimages.com>
To: Abigail <abigail@uk.fnx.com>
cc: www-html@w3.org
Subject: Re: Frames and Documents (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <323573DD.2781E494@uk.fnx.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.960910074257.21527A-100000@ns.viet.net>

On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Abigail wrote:

> Benjamin Franz wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Stephanos Piperoglou wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > I'll say this one final time:
> > >
> > > YES, when you have the freedom to use any archiving system you want for
> > > browser bookmarking, you can do this. But when you want to link to a
> > > specific point in a framed document *using HTML* in another (framed or
> > > non-framed, but not identically framed) document, you don't have this
> > > freedom (at least with the current spec).
> > 
> > Yes you can. You yourself just said how. Use a frameset of your own to
> > point at the pieces. There is nothing magic about the original author's
> > own frameset. A link to this frameset will then take you directly to the
> > page combination wanted.
> 
> You mean that if you want to point to a framed document, the way to
> go is make a page with a copy of the frameset in which the frame is
> in, with the right pages loaded, and link to that?
> What if I want to point from a Usenet article, and cannot put a
> WWW page somewhere?

Hmmm...I think, at least theoretically, you would post two Usenet
articles. One with the frameset, one with the link. Multipart MIME should
be able to do it as well - once the problem of referencing different
parts of the same message is solved...

> I always thought hyperlinks should be easy.

Shrug. You want complicated things, you get complicated implementation. At
some point when using frames you *have* to specify the state of the
frame's content. Since the content state is not intrinsic to the frames
themselves, you have to use an extrinsic method to link to it. 

-- 
Benjamin Franz