- From: lilley <lilley@afs.mcc.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:53:57 +0000 (GMT)
- To: boo@best.com (Walter Ian Kaye)
- Cc: www-html@w3.org, hwg-main@chezrob.rpmdp.com
Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > At 10:03p 01/15/96, Hakon Lie wrote: > >Kynn Bartlett writes: > > > lilley <lilley@afs.mcc.ac.uk> wrote: > > > > Have a look at the Cascading Style Sheets (CSS1) specification. > > > So how many browsers support this, and which ones? > >At this point there are three implementations: Arena, emacs-w3 and > >Tamaya. > And these run on all major OS's, right? <G> > > So please tell -- which specific OS does each of these run under? OK. Folks on www-talk will already know this stuff, so here is the info for those on hwg (and apologies again for not spotting the crossposting of the original article). Arena [0]: this is a test-bed browser fore trying out ideas. It was used to get implementation experience while the HTML 3.0 spec was being developed, for example, and is currently a test-bed for CSS1 style-sheets. It is an X application and highly tied into the X library, so non-trivial to port to non-X platforms. In practice, this means a bunch of Unix platforms. The latest version, which at times has an update cycle of weekly or less ;-) is available in binary [1] for Suns (SunOS 4.1.x and Solaris 2.3), linux, and SGI Irix, although there is source [2]. Other platforms: slightly lagging behind this, and in some cases depending on other parties helping with access to porting platforms[3] : - Digital alpha running OSF/1 3.2a - Digital DECstation running Ultrix 4.3 or freebsd - Digital VAXstation running Ultrix 4.3 - i386-netbd-current - IBM PC compatible running linux (both a.out and elf formats) - IBM RS6000 running AIX 3.2 - Silicon Graphics (all 32 bit platforms) running IRIX 5.2 - Hewlett-Packard 9000 workstations running HP-UX 9.01 - Intel x86 machines running Solaris 2.4 (both openwindows and xfree) - Sun SPARCstations running SunOS 4.1.x or Solaris 2.3 Emacs is a text editor which wants to be an operating system when it grows up ;=) and the emacs-w3 plug-in uses the emacs extension language so it will work on whatever emacs has been ported to. I don't know offhand what it has been ported to.[4] Tamaya [5] is a research prototype browser/editor that is being developed at INRIA. It was demonstrated at WWW4 in Boston, where I saw WYSIWIG creation and editing of CSS1 stylesheets. Another browser (actually an editor and server solution as well) that uses stylesheets is Navipress [6]. Last I heard this used their own stylesheet language [7], but at the Stylesheets Workshop[8] in Versailles last November George Williams, the Navisoft representative, said that CSS1 was a better solution and they would be moving towards CSS1. To find other companies that may be working on implementing CSS1, go to the archives[9] of the www-style mailing list and search on some likely company names, such as Microsoft ;-) [0] http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Arena/ [1] http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Arena/Dist-beta-1 [2] http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Arena/arena-beta-1c-src.tgz [3] ftp://ftp.w3.org/pub/arena/ [4] http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/ [5] http://www-bi.imag.fr/OPERA/Tamaya.en.html [6] http://www.navisoft.com/products/press/docs.htm [7] http://www.naviservice.com/NaviPress/UsrGuide/np07-8.htm [8] http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Style/951106_Workshop/ [9] http://www.eit.com/www.lists/www.lists.2.html -- Chris Lilley, Technical Author and JISC representative to W3C +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Manchester and North Training & Education Centre ( MAN T&EC ) | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Computer Graphics Unit, Email: Chris.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk | | Manchester Computing Centre, Voice: +44 161 275 6045 | | Oxford Road, Manchester, UK. Fax: +44 161 275 6040 | | M13 9PL BioMOO: ChrisL | | Timezone: UTC URI: http://info.mcc.ac.uk/CGU/staff/lilley/ | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
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