Frames still broke in NSN 3?

David Perrell (
Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:55:34 -0700

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Subject: Frames still broke in NSN 3?
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:55:34 -0700

I did a test of actual frame size vs. specified frame size in both
NSN 2 and MSIE 3.

I used a 31 x 45 pixel logo. I set the frame margins to zero. With
the frame width to 31 pixels wide and 45 pixels high I got the
expected result in MSIE 3. The logo was fully visible and butted to
the sides of the frame.

NSN doesn't do zero margins so I set the frame size to 33 x 47 to
accommodate the 1 pixel margin. The logo was seriously cropped. In
order to get the width of the logo fully visible I had to set the
frame width to 41 pixels.

The height was trickier. I got two pixels shy of correct when I set
frame height to 56 pixels. But setting frame height to 57 pixels
added 4 pixels to the actual height of the frame, putting too much
space below the logo.

I'm not planning to install a new version of NSN until they support
style sheets. Can anyone tell me if this flaw is in version 3.0?

Another peeve I have with NSN is that you can't get rid of margins in
tables. When border, padding and spacing are set to zero, MSIE will
butt graphics together between two rows of a table. NSN puts about
four pixels between them.

David Perrell