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Re: [ANN] 'Introduction to XForms' Tutorial

From: Anne van Kesteren <fora@annevankesteren.nl>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:30:06 +0100
Message-ID: <20060130113006.jmvgwv33gwoc0sw0@webmail.annevankesteren.nl>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Cc: www-forms@w3.org

Quoting Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>:
> The first in what will be a new series of XForms tutorials is now online.
> The 'Introduction to XForms', is available at:
>  <http://skimstone.x-port.net/index.php?q=introduction-to-xforms>

(Removed w3c-forms@w3.org from the cc list.)

Regarding the tutorial, I spotted it says that "something.html" should be your
filename. That's just wrong. Given that ".html" is mostly associated (both by
the OS and browsers) with text/html processing it will never be recognized as
XML and no namespace dispatching will take place... Such things may cause a
huge compatibility problem for future UAs. (Similar to the no-namespaced SVG
files that can be found around the web.)

> This approach was taken to counter the view that we seem to find that
> 'XForms is difficult to learn'. (We've even come across this from people who
> are teaching XForms!) You'll see from the tutorial that in fact XForms is
> very easy to get up and running with, in a short amount of time. And I think
> even experienced XForms users may be surprised to remind themselves just how
> much XForms can do even at the 'simple' end.

It is difficult. People don't understand namespaces for instance. They also
don't understand MIME types. They complain about <acronym> being removed from
XHTML 2 because it is the only variant (of <abbr> and <acronym>) that is
supported by IE... Missing the fact that IE does not support XHTML 1 in an XML
way (and therefore does not support XHTML at all...) and that XHTML 2 is in a
different namespace which means they are completely different elements from an
AWWW point of view. Oh well.

Anne van Kesteren
Received on Monday, 30 January 2006 10:30:10 UTC

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