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RE: "The special people" - was: www 10 conference (off-topic)

From: T. V. Raman <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:14:38 -0700
Message-ID: <15059.30654.471540.130373@bubbles.almaden.ibm.com>
To: "Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer" <schnitz@mozquito.com>
Cc: "Michael Earls" <michael@cerkit.com>, <www-forms@w3.org>
Hear Hear!
>>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer <schnitz@mozquito.com> writes:

    Sebastian> 	<snip>...</snip> Let's finish up XForms and
    Sebastian> watch as it takes 10 years to get rid of all
    Sebastian> of the User Agents we have today in exchange
    Sebastian> for the "new" XForms UA.  <snip>...</snip>

    Sebastian> 	I'm taking my hat as XForms co-chair off,
    Sebastian> because based on this one sentence I must
    Sebastian> tell *you* to relax here. I have nothing
    Sebastian> about the rest of the email, but such a
    Sebastian> statement let's me and the other people think
    Sebastian> what we are doing here is completely
    Sebastian> worthless. I think such a statement is
    Sebastian> completely counterproductive, it is thinking
    Sebastian> of the type that everything is at it is and
    Sebastian> you cannot change things so you shouldn't
    Sebastian> even try to do so. I'm not sure out of which
    Sebastian> camp you're coming from, but if more people
    Sebastian> would think like you, XML and even the Web
    Sebastian> itself would have never taken off in the
    Sebastian> first place.

    Sebastian> 	Let me tell you that there will be a myriad
    Sebastian> ways for XForms to penetrate the market. The
    Sebastian> old Netscape/Microsoft desktop browser web
    Sebastian> world is long gone, we have a bunch of new
    Sebastian> devices, markets and players, all to which
    Sebastian> XForms is targetted towards. XForms is *not*
    Sebastian> something purely intended for Netscape and
    Sebastian> Microsoft to adopt, but the next generation
    Sebastian> of web forms for *all* XML-based
    Sebastian> applications, the basis of all interactivity
    Sebastian> and business on the web, and the first major
    Sebastian> improvement to web forms since 1993! This
    Sebastian> thing will take off big time, it has already.

    Sebastian> 	- Sebastian

    Sebastian> 	There's a lot of work to be done to spend so
    Sebastian> much time arguing over elitist attitudes
    Sebastian> about colored paper and special glasses.
    Sebastian> 	My .02.
    Sebastian> 	Michael Earls
    Sebastian> 	-----Original Message----- From:
    Sebastian> www-forms-request@w3.org [
    Sebastian> mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of
    Sebastian> T. V. Raman Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001
    Sebastian> 10:02 AM To: Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Cc:
    Sebastian> Andrea Marchetti; www-forms@w3.org;
    Sebastian> steven.pemberton@cwi.nl Subject: RE: www 10
    Sebastian> conference
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    Sebastian> such goop to W3C lists!  the following
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    Sebastian> From: "Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer"
    Sebastian> <schnitz@mozquito.com> To: "Andrea Marchetti"
    Sebastian> <Andrea.Marchetti@iat.cnr.it>,
    Sebastian> <www-forms@w3.org>, <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
    Sebastian> Subject: RE: www 10 conference Date: Mon, 9
    Sebastian> Apr 2001 18:49:26 +0200
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    Sebastian> 	-- Best Regards, --raman
    Sebastian> ------------------------------------------------------------
    Sebastian> 	IBM Research: Human Language Technologies
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Best Regards,

IBM Research: Human Language Technologies
Phone:        1 (408) 927 2608
Fax:        1 (408) 927 3012
Email:        tvraman@us.ibm.com
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Snail:        IBM Almaden Research Center,
              650 Harry Road
              San Jose 95120
Received on Tuesday, 10 April 2001 17:14:56 UTC

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