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Re: Issues about the DOM TS brought up in the DOM WG Telcon

From: Robert Clary <bclary@netscape.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 05:27:56 -0500
Message-ID: <3C761D2C.6070506@netscape.com>
To: Curt Arnold <carnold@houston.rr.com>
CC: www-dom-ts@w3.org
The report that Mozilla attempted to run the ActiveX object is a red 
herring due to a misunderstanding in verbal communications with a member 
of the DOM WG.  As far as I know, no one at Netscape made such a claim. 
The issue with sniffing is that it is too restrictive.

The relevant message to this list  is from Dimitris on 2/20/2002 at 1:24PM

<quote>
 From the top of my head there are the following issues brought up by 
Netscape representatives (they will send a message to this list after 
having checked thouroughly):

1. Browser sniffing -- it seems that the sniffing is not elaborate 
enough, makes Mozille, for example, run code with calls to an ActiveX 
object.
2. Tests on default attributes require a validating parser, which is not 
a requirement (for XML), for HTML default attributes need to be there. 
The issue is then that the TS tests the XML appclication DOM, not the 
browser DOM
</quote>

The issue with MSXML vs. Native browser implementations is another issue.

/bc

Curt Arnold wrote:

>To get to the call to new ActiveXObject, the browser must be identified as
>IE.  For Netscape or Mozilla to be falsely identified as IE,
>navigator.appName must contain  "Microsoft" and not contain "Netscape".
>That does not occur with Mozilla on any of the versions and platforms that
>I've tested.
>
>What I wanted was something like, when running Mozilla 0.9.8 on OpenVMS, I
>get a message that ActiveXObject is not defined.  The value of
>navigator.appName is "Mozilla (not Microsoft)".
>
>However, I've incorporated the logic from
>http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/sniffer/browser_type.html to
>detect Navigator 6 and Mozilla.  However, since I don't have access to
>whatever Mozilla browser that confounds the existing logic, I can't tell if
>it fixes the problem.
>
>I'll be committing some changes to DOMTestSuite.js in just a few moments.
>
Received on Friday, 22 February 2002 05:32:52 UTC

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