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Re: Issues about the DOM TS brought up in the DOM WG Telcon

From: Robert Clary <bclary@netscape.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 05:27:56 -0500
Message-ID: <3C761D2C.6070506@netscape.com>
To: Curt Arnold <carnold@houston.rr.com>
CC: www-dom-ts@w3.org
The report that Mozilla attempted to run the ActiveX object is a red 
herring due to a misunderstanding in verbal communications with a member 
of the DOM WG.  As far as I know, no one at Netscape made such a claim. 
The issue with sniffing is that it is too restrictive.

The relevant message to this list  is from Dimitris on 2/20/2002 at 1:24PM

 From the top of my head there are the following issues brought up by 
Netscape representatives (they will send a message to this list after 
having checked thouroughly):

1. Browser sniffing -- it seems that the sniffing is not elaborate 
enough, makes Mozille, for example, run code with calls to an ActiveX 
2. Tests on default attributes require a validating parser, which is not 
a requirement (for XML), for HTML default attributes need to be there. 
The issue is then that the TS tests the XML appclication DOM, not the 
browser DOM

The issue with MSXML vs. Native browser implementations is another issue.


Curt Arnold wrote:

>To get to the call to new ActiveXObject, the browser must be identified as
>IE.  For Netscape or Mozilla to be falsely identified as IE,
>navigator.appName must contain  "Microsoft" and not contain "Netscape".
>That does not occur with Mozilla on any of the versions and platforms that
>I've tested.
>What I wanted was something like, when running Mozilla 0.9.8 on OpenVMS, I
>get a message that ActiveXObject is not defined.  The value of
>navigator.appName is "Mozilla (not Microsoft)".
>However, I've incorporated the logic from
>http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/sniffer/browser_type.html to
>detect Navigator 6 and Mozilla.  However, since I don't have access to
>whatever Mozilla browser that confounds the existing logic, I can't tell if
>it fixes the problem.
>I'll be committing some changes to DOMTestSuite.js in just a few moments.
Received on Friday, 22 February 2002 05:32:52 UTC

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