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Re: Animatable lines added to css3-ui

From: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:59:51 -0800
Message-ID: <CAEV2_WYGuo+KdrGObrpEDSMJnmPEjOn40L_aicEtPVfNjU98Lg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mike Taylor <miket@opera.com>
Cc: www-archive@w3.org, David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org>
Mike, I've tried using nav-* properties in Opera on desktop and have not
seen anything work.

If you have public test pages that demonstrate Opera on desktop doing
something with nav-* properties, please send them along.

This is one of those cases where it's just not something supported/used on
the public web (feel free to provide URLs to public sites that appear to
use it). Behind firewalls or proxies etc. is not important enough to pursue
in a CR frankly. I'm going to save the spec text for possible
reworking/redesign in a future draft if there is actual public web interest.

Here's one thread of many on various "nav-*" problems:
* http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Oct/thread.html#msg468

For more just search www-style for "nav-".

Tantek




On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Mike Taylor <miket@opera.com> wrote:

> Hi Tantek,
>
>
> On 2/8/13 3:48 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:>
>
>> re: nav-index. The nav-* properties are not well implemented (and I don't
>> expect to see that change anytime soon), so I'm planning on dropping them
>> in the next CR draft.
>>
>
> Can you provide a pointer to discussion of the issues with nav-*?
>
> Presto has an implementation and we recommend its usage to developers
> working on applications for TV [1][2].
>
> As a result, there is existing content in the wild that relies on it. Of
> course applications may be using only some parts of it and may be not
> hitting the issue that you are referring to (simply may be working around
> it in some way).
>
> Also, there are other specifications that reference it (namely HbbTV).
>
> In any case, if there are plans to remove nav-* stuff from the UI spec, an
> email to the Web & TV list would probably be helpful in understanding what
> impact it might have in that space.
>
> [1] http://dev.opera.com/articles/**view/functional-key-handling-**
> in-opera-tv-store-**applications/#spatial-**functional<http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/functional-key-handling-in-opera-tv-store-applications/#spatial-functional>
> [2] http://dev.opera.com/articles/**view/tweaking-spatial-**
> navigation-for-tv-browsing/<http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/tweaking-spatial-navigation-for-tv-browsing/>
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Mike Taylor
> Opera Software
>
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