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Re: HTML5 citing RFC 1345 as normative reference for US-ASCII

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:40:27 -0700
Cc: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>
Message-Id: <C729480E-90A5-462B-A042-7980592E42BE@mnot.net>
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
The point of the request, btw, was that the admin list not be used for substantial discussion. This is totally on-topic for public-ietf-w3c@w3.org.


On 15/03/2011, at 10:34 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:

> Responding off-list at the request of Mark Nottingham.
> On 03/15/2011 01:10 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
>> --On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:03 -0400 Sam Ruby
>> <rubys@intertwingly.net>  wrote:
>>> On 03/15/2011 11:34 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>>> FYI:
>>>> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0302
>>>> .html>
>>>> ...I'm sure that this will come up during Last Call again.
>>> This issue can be REOPENED if there is new information
>>> presented.  An example of such new information is listed in
>>> the email cited above.
>> And, if you (collectively) decided to do so, you might consider
>> the note I sent a few minutes ago as "new information", since,
>> as far as I can tell from the poll discussion or summary, the WG
>> apparently did not consider use of either RFC 20 or RFC 5198 as
>> options.
> If you have new information you would like to have the chairs consider, please send (or have somebody send on your behalf) a message to the Chairs coping the HTML working group.  The chairs are unlikely to seriously consider such a request unless that request is accompanied by a Change Proposal:
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html#change-proposal
>>     john
> - Sam Ruby
>> p.s.  The objective of having an authoritative definition of
>> ASCII that is available for free is a non-starter.  There is
>> only one authoritative definition and that is the one published
>> by the body that is now called ANSI.  That is not only
>> copyright-controlled and sold but the 1968 version is out of
>> print.  Please remember that "ASCII" is an abbreviation for
>> "American Standard Code for Information Interchange" not a
>> descriptor of a list of code points.  If you want free, stable,
>> and available, you are going to have to go with an authoritative
>> and stable copy of the code point list and whatever else you are
>> interested in.

Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
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