Re: Please explain the role of the W3C in the continuing development of HTML

Hi Ian,

I don't know if a private conversation would be very productive, as it is a
question that quite a few people would like answered:

"Please explain the role of the W3C in the continuing development of HTML"

Pointing to a press release is not an answer. Anyway I will take up no more
of your time as you appear unable or unwilling to directly answer the
question. I felt if I didn't at least try to get the W3C to counter
web/standards community perceptions,  I would be remiss. I have now tried.



Best regards
Steve Faulkner


On 14 February 2011 22:36, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:

>
> On 14 Feb 2011, at 4:21 PM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
>
>  Hi Ian,
>>
>> I won't press you any further,
>> but will say that I am disappointed that the W3C does not appear to have
>> the strength of leadership to directly explain its role in the development
>> of HTML.
>>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I propose we chat by phone. That will help me understand what you may be
> seeking. Want to schedule (offlist) time to chat?
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>> This reluctance only serves to promote the perception that now, the W3C
>> only plays a peripheral role in the development of HTML, while the core
>> responsibility and influence over the continuing development of HTML is in
>> the hands of the WHAT WG.
>>
>> If The W3C top brass do ever come to the realisation that those who give
>> their time to the development of HTML at the W3C, deserve a clear
>> explanation. I can assure you it will be appreciated
>>
>
>
>
>> with regards
>> Steve Faulkner
>>
>> On 14 February 2011 21:44, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 14 Feb 2011, at 3:41 PM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> a polite reminder
>>
>> you wrote:
>>
>> "I plan to follow up with you on this next Monday."
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Apologies for not answering here as well. I did answer in your question on
>> the W3C blog:
>>  http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/02/last_year_i_published_several.html#c214182
>>
>> where I wrote:
>>
>>  "Today W3C announced the extension of the HTML Working Group. The press
>> release we issued speaks to some of these issues:
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/02/htmlwg-pr.html"
>>
>> Hope that helps and thanks for checking back,
>>
>>  _ Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> regards
>> Steve Faulkner
>>
>>
>> On 9 February 2011 15:12, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 8 Feb 2011, at 3:43 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> There has been much discussion[1] about HTML/HTML5 over the past few weeks
>> due to the HTML5 logo and the WHATWG changing the name and stripping the
>> vestiges of HTML versioning.
>> The WHATWG have clearly stated the rationale for the formalisation of the
>> WHAT WG HTML - living standard, one that includes the devaluation of the W3C
>> spec development model.
>>
>> What has been and is clearly missing from this public discourse is the
>> clear articulation (by the W3C) of the role of the W3C in HTML development
>> and the value proposition of the specification process used by the W3C for
>> HTML5.
>>
>> Please provide a clear expalnation of the role of the W3C in the
>> continuing development of HTML
>>
>> Hello Steve,
>>
>> I plan to follow up with you on this next Monday.
>>
>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] a selection
>> http://www.zeldman.com/2011/01/27/html5-vs-html/
>> http://blog.whatwg.org/html-is-the-new-html5
>> http://www.infoworld.com/d/developer-world/html-the-standard-failed-585
>> http://adactio.com/journal/4301/
>>
>> --
>> with regards
>>
>> Steve Faulkner
>> Technical Director - TPG
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> with regards
>>
>> Steve Faulkner
>> Technical Director - TPG
>>
>> www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com |
>> www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner
>> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives -
>> dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
>> Web Accessibility Toolbar -
>> www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> with regards
>>
>> Steve Faulkner
>> Technical Director - TPG
>>
>> www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com |
>> www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner
>> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives -
>> dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
>> Web Accessibility Toolbar -
>> www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
>>
>>
> --
> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>
>


-- 
with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG

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