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Re: ISSUE-30 counter-proposal

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:01:01 -0800
Message-id: <4ECCAC46-324A-43CE-877F-E4091D338BD1@apple.com>
Cc: Shelley Powers <shelleypowers@burningbird.net>, "Atkins Jr. Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
To: www-archive@w3.org

Shelley Powers wrote:
> Sam Ruby wrote:

>> So, for now, I would like to reserve public-html for discussions of
>> the form of "hey Charles (or Ian): can you update your change  
>> proposal
>> to include 'x'" or "hey Chairs: I'm not happy with either change
>> proposal, and I would like to produce a third one, can I have n days
>> in order to prepare it?"
>
> This is counter to your Decision process, which includes a time of
> discussion about the proposals. And I don't remember that the  
> discussion
> had to take this specific format.
>
> Are you co-chairs changing the Decision process? Again?
>
> This is fine, if you apply the same practices for ALL discussions, and
> for all participants.

I haven't discussed Sam's request with him in detail, but I do not see  
it as change in process. Rather, we are continuing our policy of  
moderating the list to try to keep it civil and livable. We  
occasionally do that by asking posters to occasionally take some time  
out, or take particular discussions elsewhere, if a thread appears to  
be going off the rails. Here are some recent examples from me:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Feb/0203.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Feb/0143.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1221.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/0901.html

In all these cases I asked people to hold off on their posting, or  
only post if they had new information to add. The goal here is to keep  
the list from being bogged down by long threads that don't seem to be  
producing good results.

Reviewing the ISSUE-30 thread, upon reviewing it, it seems to me that  
both you and Tab got a little overheated. I have to admit that in  
retrospect, I am not sure my posts on the thread were very helpful  
either. So it seems like a good idea to take the discussion off the  
list for a bit and see if we can come back with some constructive input.

Reards,
Maciej
Received on Monday, 15 February 2010 00:01:36 GMT

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