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Re: Documents not in scope for HTML-WG

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:55:51 -0500
Message-ID: <4B6C5BA7.1090404@intertwingly.net>
To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
CC: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Larry Masinter wrote:
> I know the working group decided that two years ago! 
> 
> However, Working Groups do not have the authority to change
> their charter. The charter is established by the director
> after discussion by the AC. The AC discussion explicitly
> removed 2D graphics from the charter, if you look at the
> record, there was an earlier draft of the charter with
> 2D graphics that was explicitly removed.
> 
> So, it's fine. I'm not bringing this up in the working
> group because the working group decision was clear.
> 
> I think it would be fine to update the charter to include
> 2D Context as actually within scope if that's what the
> working group proposes and the Director and AC agree.

That, too, was discussed.  See issue 38:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/38?changelog

> I wouldn't object to that.
> 
> But the W3C AC actually discusses charters, comes to
> agreement about scope, and the discussions about charter
> scope are intense, careful, and the wordings chosen 
> carefully. Companies decide whether or not to join a
> working group and who to send as representatives based
> on what the charter says. 
> 
> So my point stands: whether or not the working group
> decided to include this material, it is out of scope
> for the current charter.

The current state, as I understand it, is that the WG has concurrence by 
the Director for over two years to include Immediate Mode Graphics and 
canvas element.

> Larry
> --
> http://larry.masinter.net

- Sam Ruby

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne van Kesteren [mailto:annevk@opera.com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM
> To: Larry Masinter; Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org); Philippe Le Hegaret
> Cc: www-archive; Maciej Stachowiak; Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby; Manu Sporny
> Subject: Re: Documents not in scope for HTML-WG
> 
> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:16:43 +0100, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>  
> wrote:
>> None of RDFa, Microdata  or 2D Context, are in scope for the current  
>> HTML working group charter.
> 
> Well, at least for 2D Context the Working Group decided over two years ago  
> that it is:
> 
>    http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/15
> 
> 
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