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Re: vCard RDF merge....

From: Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:10:31 +0200
Message-ID: <4A538187.8070200@yahoo-inc.com>
To: martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
CC: Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>, Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, www-archive@w3.org

>
> BTW, the Yahoo SearchMonkey doc does not specify a domain for vcard:adr
>
> http://developer.yahoo.com/searchmonkey/smguide/vcard-details.html#vcard-adr 
>

We just regenerated the original documentation ;)

Peter

>
> Best
> Martin
>
> Toby Inkster wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 12:55 +1000, Renato Iannella wrote:
>>   
>>> 4 - We define mobileTel property but vCard calls this "cell" ?
>>>
>>> 5 - We define a mobileEmail and personalEmail and workEmail  
>>> properties, but there is no such semantics in vCard?
>>>
>>> 6 - I am not clear on the unlabeledAdr, unlabeledEmail, and  
>>> unlabeledTel properties we define? Are these to capture all the
>>> "old"  
>>> types in vCard like bbs-tel, parcel-adr etc?
>>> And, of course, we don't capture these as rdf properties in our  
>>> ontology?
>>>
>>> 7 - How to do handle vCard's preferred type? Ie I prefer my workTel  
>>> over my homeTel?
>>>     
>>
>> A while back I wrote a little RDF vocab that extended the 2006 vCard
>> vocab. It introduces a few extra terms which I thought were useful,
>> mostly taken from the vCard 4.0 drafts at the time. e.g. a "lang"
>> property to indicate languages spoken by the person represented.
>>
>> One other thing it has though is a more vCard-like way of representing
>> telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, etc.
>>
>> Instead of:
>>
>> 	_:me a v:VCard ;
>> 	     v:fn "Alice Smith" ;
>> 	     v:workTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> ;
>> 	     v:mobileTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> .
>>
>> It uses:
>>
>> 	_:me a v:VCard ;
>> 	    v:fn "Alice Smith" ;
>> 	    v:tel [
>> 		    a vx:Tel ;
>> 		    rdf:value <tel:+44-7700-900123> ;
>> 		    vx:usage "work" , "mobile"
>> 		] .
>>
>> My primary motivation was to be able to represent the data in the hCard
>> microformat in a way more closely related to the type+value structure of
>> hCard communications devices.
>>
>> It's not perfect (it breaks the "range" of the 2006 v:tel, v:email and
>> v:label properties; and vx:usage should probably take a non-literal
>> value) but perhaps some of the ideas there could be incorporated into
>> the merged RDF vCard. In particular it should address all of the points
>> above.
>>
>>   
>>> 8 - I assume we don't  wish to support Bag, Seq, Alt anymore.....but 
>>> just support rdf:list?
>>>     
>>
>> I don't know why we even would want to support rdf:List? 
>>
>> Rather than:
>>
>> 	<rdf:Description rdf:about="#me">
>> 	  <v:note>
>> 	    <rdf:Bag>
>> 	      <rdf:li>Foo</rdf:li>
>> 	      <rdf:li>Bar</rdf:li>
>> 	      <rdf:li>Baz</rdf:li>
>> 	    </rdf:Bag>
>> 	  </v:note>
>> 	</rdf:Description>
>>
>> Just use:
>>
>> 	<rdf:Description rdf:about="#me">
>> 	  <v:note>Foo</v:note>
>> 	  <v:note>Bar</v:note>
>> 	  <v:note>Baz</v:note>
>> 	</rdf:Description>
>>
>> rdf:List only becomes especially useful when you want to indicate that
>> the set of values for a property is a closed set. The only useful
>> application I can see for it in vCard is to represent the structured
>> name data - i.e. I might want to have an rdf:List of my middle names, so
>> that people know exactly how many there are (in my case, one) and in
>> what order.
>>
>>   
>
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