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Re: vCard RDF merge....

From: Martin Hepp (UniBW) <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:03:13 +0200
Message-ID: <4A537FD1.2030607@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>
CC: Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, www-archive@w3.org, Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>
Hi,
Just to make sure: I understood there is consensus that the domain of 
vcard:adr should be expanded from vcard:vcard to anything that can 
reasonably have an address, e.g. persons, organizations, or locations. 
Am I right? I think we discussed that before, but I cannot find a reference.

BTW, the Yahoo SearchMonkey doc does not specify a domain for vcard:adr

http://developer.yahoo.com/searchmonkey/smguide/vcard-details.html#vcard-adr 


Best
Martin

Toby Inkster wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 12:55 +1000, Renato Iannella wrote:
>   
>> 4 - We define mobileTel property but vCard calls this "cell" ?
>>
>> 5 - We define a mobileEmail and personalEmail and workEmail  
>> properties, but there is no such semantics in vCard?
>>
>> 6 - I am not clear on the unlabeledAdr, unlabeledEmail, and  
>> unlabeledTel properties we define? Are these to capture all the
>> "old"  
>> types in vCard like bbs-tel, parcel-adr etc?
>> And, of course, we don't capture these as rdf properties in our  
>> ontology?
>>
>> 7 - How to do handle vCard's preferred type? Ie I prefer my workTel  
>> over my homeTel?
>>     
>
> A while back I wrote a little RDF vocab that extended the 2006 vCard
> vocab. It introduces a few extra terms which I thought were useful,
> mostly taken from the vCard 4.0 drafts at the time. e.g. a "lang"
> property to indicate languages spoken by the person represented.
>
> One other thing it has though is a more vCard-like way of representing
> telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, etc.
>
> Instead of:
>
> 	_:me a v:VCard ;
> 	     v:fn "Alice Smith" ;
> 	     v:workTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> ;
> 	     v:mobileTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> .
>
> It uses:
>
> 	_:me a v:VCard ;
> 	    v:fn "Alice Smith" ;
> 	    v:tel [
> 		    a vx:Tel ;
> 		    rdf:value <tel:+44-7700-900123> ;
> 		    vx:usage "work" , "mobile"
> 		] .
>
> My primary motivation was to be able to represent the data in the hCard
> microformat in a way more closely related to the type+value structure of
> hCard communications devices.
>
> It's not perfect (it breaks the "range" of the 2006 v:tel, v:email and
> v:label properties; and vx:usage should probably take a non-literal
> value) but perhaps some of the ideas there could be incorporated into
> the merged RDF vCard. In particular it should address all of the points
> above.
>
>   
>> 8 - I assume we don't  wish to support Bag, Seq, Alt anymore.....but 
>> just support rdf:list?
>>     
>
> I don't know why we even would want to support rdf:List? 
>
> Rather than:
>
> 	<rdf:Description rdf:about="#me">
> 	  <v:note>
> 	    <rdf:Bag>
> 	      <rdf:li>Foo</rdf:li>
> 	      <rdf:li>Bar</rdf:li>
> 	      <rdf:li>Baz</rdf:li>
> 	    </rdf:Bag>
> 	  </v:note>
> 	</rdf:Description>
>
> Just use:
>
> 	<rdf:Description rdf:about="#me">
> 	  <v:note>Foo</v:note>
> 	  <v:note>Bar</v:note>
> 	  <v:note>Baz</v:note>
> 	</rdf:Description>
>
> rdf:List only becomes especially useful when you want to indicate that
> the set of values for a property is a closed set. The only useful
> application I can see for it in vCard is to represent the structured
> name data - i.e. I might want to have an rdf:List of my middle names, so
> that people know exactly how many there are (in my case, one) and in
> what order.
>
>   

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