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Re: 27 August drafts of User Agent Guidelines/Techniques Available

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:10:01 -0400 (EDT)
To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
cc: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>, User Agent Guidelines Emailing List <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9908301408070.22552-100000@tux.w3.org>
I'm not fussed by either word. I think that the checkpoint actually expresses
the requirement of the further proposed checkpoint, which I therefore suggest
is redundant and can be dropped.

Charles McCN

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Ian Jacobs wrote:
  "Gregory J. Rosmaita" wrote:
  > 
  > aloha, ian!
  > 
  > checkpoint 10.6, as prosed by me [1], amended by Len Kasday [2], and adopted by
  > the WG during the 25 August telecon [3], should read:
  > 
  > 10.6 Prompt the user to confirm any form submission not explicitly activated by
  > the user. [Priority 2]
  > 
  > and not, as it appears in the 27 August draft [4]
  > 
  > 10.6 Prompt the user to confirm any form submission not explicitly initiated by
  > the user. [Priority 2]
  > 
  > a one word difference, admittedly, but a significant one, i believe...
  
IJ
  I prefer "initiate" since that is a concept that applies more
  widely: changes that the user does not initiate may be disorienting.
  Also, the expression "activate a form submission" didn't ring well
  to me. "Submit a form" is the best - any way to rephrase it that way?
  
  Please let me know why you prefer "activate" to "initiate".
   
  > i also am uncertain about the status of the second proposed checkpoint, which
  > addresses event handled forms, contained in the post archived at (long URI
  > warning!)
  > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0139.html
  > 
  > has it been dropped, or merely subsumed into 10.6?
  
  I may simply have missed it. Did we discuss it at the teleconf?
  If not, let's put it on the agenda for Weds.
   
  > could, therefore,  discussion of (or at least a vote on) the second proposed
  > checkpoint for GL10
  > 
  > If the submission of a form is achieved via a script or an event handler,
  > prompt the user for confirmation before submitting the form content. [Priority
  > 1]
  > * NOTE: This checkpoint is intended to extend the user's control over automated
  > submission mechanisms, such as the HTML4 event handler "onchange"
  > * Refer also to Checkpoint 5.8
  > 
  > be added to the agenda for the 1 September telecon?
  > 
  > thanks,
  > gregory.
  > 
  > PS: the proposal for the additional checkpoint for GL10 contains proposed
  > techniques, as well
  > 
  > References
  > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0151.html
  > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0150.html
  > [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/1999/08/wai-ua-telecon-19990825.html#minutes
  > [4] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WAI-USERAGENT-19990827
  > 
  > --------------------------------------------------------
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  > Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
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