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Re: 27 August drafts of User Agent Guidelines/Techniques Available

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:07:02 -0400
Message-ID: <37CAC846.C3AC5663@w3.org>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
CC: User Agent Guidelines Emailing List <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
"Gregory J. Rosmaita" wrote:
> 
> aloha, ian!
> 
> checkpoint 10.6, as prosed by me [1], amended by Len Kasday [2], and adopted by
> the WG during the 25 August telecon [3], should read:
> 
> 10.6 Prompt the user to confirm any form submission not explicitly activated by
> the user. [Priority 2]
> 
> and not, as it appears in the 27 August draft [4]
> 
> 10.6 Prompt the user to confirm any form submission not explicitly initiated by
> the user. [Priority 2]
> 
> a one word difference, admittedly, but a significant one, i believe...

I prefer "initiate" since that is a concept that applies more
widely: changes that the user does not initiate may be disorienting.
Also, the expression "activate a form submission" didn't ring well
to me. "Submit a form" is the best - any way to rephrase it that way?

Please let me know why you prefer "activate" to "initiate".
 
> i also am uncertain about the status of the second proposed checkpoint, which
> addresses event handled forms, contained in the post archived at (long URI
> warning!)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0139.html
> 
> has it been dropped, or merely subsumed into 10.6?

I may simply have missed it. Did we discuss it at the teleconf?
If not, let's put it on the agenda for Weds.
 
> could, therefore,  discussion of (or at least a vote on) the second proposed
> checkpoint for GL10
> 
> If the submission of a form is achieved via a script or an event handler,
> prompt the user for confirmation before submitting the form content. [Priority
> 1]
> * NOTE: This checkpoint is intended to extend the user's control over automated
> submission mechanisms, such as the HTML4 event handler "onchange"
> * Refer also to Checkpoint 5.8
> 
> be added to the agenda for the 1 September telecon?
> 
> thanks,
> gregory.
> 
> PS: the proposal for the additional checkpoint for GL10 contains proposed
> techniques, as well
> 
> References
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0151.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0150.html
> [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/1999/08/wai-ua-telecon-19990825.html#minutes
> [4] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WAI-USERAGENT-19990827
> 
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