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Re: title attributes on links

From: Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:51:15 +0200
Message-ID: <CA++-QFcHSG_eVZ1gdEVz_CWDZ317DST_js=0-rayC_bGz+ty_g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Ramón Corominas <listas@ramoncorominas.com>, Glen Wallis <glen.wallis@gmail.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi Steve
The problem as a I see it if title is used instead of label, is that the
functionality that comes with label, i.e., being able to click on it and
place focus in the associated field element, is lost. Thus a Dragon user
will have to execute multiple commands to achieve what they could have
achieved with a single command. Similarly, users using magnification, can
click on the label, when they've read it, and place the focus in the form
field, without having to scroll horizontally.
This capability is lost when the title attribute is used on the physical
form element.
Harry

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Steve Faulkner
<faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Harry,
>
> Providing a control with an accessible name is a level A requirement:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#ensure-compat
> using label or title provides a programmatically associated accessible
> name for a control. The information is provided by the browsers through the
> accessibility API Dragon can access this infromation, if it does not expose
> it to the user its a bug in Dragon, not in WCAG 2.0.
>
> The use of title is only recommended under specific circumstances when a
> visible label would be redundant.
>
> example:
>
> <input type=text title=search> <button>search</search>
>
> regards
> SteveF
>
>
> On 28 May 2012 09:13, Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> Ramón Corominas wrote:
>>
>>> Which makes me wonder why it is acceptable (and even promoted) to use
>>> the title instead of a <label> for form controls. Don't we have techniques
>>> to hide labels preserving their accessibility?
>>>
>>
>> Who and why would anyone want to promote a non-accessible technique?
>> 'label' is an essential navigation mechanism for people using all kinds of
>> AT, as I observed, once again, while testing software with a Dragon user.
>> 'label' is even more important than 'alt'!!! While I can describe the
>> contents of an image in the content, or even use the 'title' attribute,
>> without losing functionality, whereas without the 'label' attribute I have
>> reduced functionality and reduced mobility.
>>
>> Failure to use 'label', if it is not already so, should be a Level A
>> infringement!
>> Harry
>>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards
>
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG
>
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