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Re: Accessible content management system

From: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@ncbi.ie>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:02:52 +0100
Message-ID: <4E3C223C.1070808@ncbi.ie>
To: jfoliot@stanford.edu
CC: isforums@manx.net, 'Terry Dean' <Terry.Dean@chariot.net.au>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On 05/08/2011 16:58, John Foliot wrote:
> I'll add my +1 here. I have come to the point long ago where end-users
> *MUST* trump conformance: for example using ARIA in HTML 4 or XHTML1 is
> "non-conformant" and will fail a validator test. So what? Remove ARIA to
> get a conformance badge? Or include ARIA for improved accessibility and
> fail the validator?

Good point John, *however* you and I, and others here know that the end
result is a positive user experience (more accessible content etc) -
however (and this is a good example of where the validation abstraction
breaks down IMO - many project managers, procurers etc will just see
lots of red crosses, all warnings and scary parsing errors. This is
kinda counterproductive as it may certainly *not* be reflective of the
user experience - also organisations need to be seen to validate/conform
to Guidelines like WCAG and it really does take vision and confidence in
the skills of your auditor for your clients to be on our side and
support developing content like you describe.

Cheers

Josh

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