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RE: Accessible content management system

From: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
To: <joshue.oconnor@ncbi.ie>, <isforums@manx.net>
Cc: "'Terry Dean'" <Terry.Dean@chariot.net.au>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <056301cc5388$7fc07a00$7f416e00$@edu>
I'll add my +1 here. I have come to the point long ago where end-users
*MUST* trump conformance: for example using ARIA in HTML 4 or XHTML1 is
"non-conformant" and will fail a validator test. So what? Remove ARIA to
get a conformance badge? Or include ARIA for improved accessibility and
fail the validator?

The choice is transparently clear to this camper. A validator is a useful
tool to ensure you've not made a total mess of your source code, but it is
no guarantee what-so-ever of an accessible site - at best validation hints
that the developer cares enough, and so likely there will be few access

Ian, you are far from alone here.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Joshue O Connor
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 4:51 AM
> To: isforums@manx.net
> Cc: 'Terry Dean'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Accessible content management system
> Hi Ian,
> > As mentioned previously, I personally do not view accessibility
> solely in
> > terms of conformance. And at the risk of being branded a heretic, I
> > personally would also like to see this view more widely accepted..
> You are not alone in this view, I also share it.
> Cheers
> Josh
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