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Re: problems with a web site tableless using mozilla and opera.

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 04:03:06 +0100
To: "edson rufino de souza" <edesign@click21.com.br>, "'wai-ig list'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
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Hello Edson,

these are likely to be bugs in your stylesheet, or in one of the browsers.  
I suggest you ask on a CSS discussion list for more detailed help, unless  
someone here has an answer. (I suspect you could find a decent answer in  
Brazilian Portuguese, actually. There are some smart people there. O fallo  
um portonol muito horrible :-)

After looking quickly at the stylesheet I would make a couple of  

Don't set a fixed width for the whole page. Although it means your layout  
will stay more fixed, it also means that people whose effective window  
size is less than 600px (for example, using low screen magnification) will  
be forced to scroll horizontally as well as vertically.

Don't use x-small as a font size - it's too small for many people to read  
comfortably. (So is small, actually. The reason I wear glasses now has a  
lot to do with reading website text - my eyesight has not changed since I  
was at school, and I managed to get through a history degree at  
university, reading thousands of pages a year, without feeling any need  
for them).

Don't use px-based layout schemes. It should be sufficient to make a  
couple of div-and-float layouts even to get the current layout, and it  
should help with keeping the search button and box consistently placed  
(note that there is no such thing as visual consistency on the web anyway  
- different browsers and operating systems have different presentation for  
things like buttons and text even before users apply their preferences).

Best regards

Charles McCathieNevile

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:52:47 -0200, edson rufino de souza  
<edesign@click21.com.br> wrote:

> i´m responsible to usability and accessibility of the new web site of  
> rio de
> janeiro state university.  we´re developing the new site without tables,
> using only div, according w3c specifications.  this decision is to  
> improve
> the accessibility to different persons and equipments.  the test version  
> is
> at www.edsonsouza.com.br/portal.
> we´re experiencing differences in visualization with mozilla and opera.   
> in
> mozilla, the grey area in the left menu below the menu items appears  
> white.
> the right would be continue the grey area until the footer (see in ie to
> understand).

Charles McCathieNevile                 Fundacion Sidar
charles@sidar.org                      http://www.sidar.org
Received on Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:09:57 UTC

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