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Re: background-image in CSS

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:34:37 -0500 (EST)
To: "Charles F. Munat" <chas@munat.com>
cc: WAI List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0201201533110.23976-100000@tux.w3.org>
There is a concept on the Web known as metadata, the basis of the semantic
web project, that is all about doing just that. It is even required by WCAG
&. - checkpoint 13.2 for the interested.

chaals

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Charles F. Munat wrote:

  Ever noticed how some magazines will have a little blurb inside entitled
  "On the Cover" or something like that? Usually it is just a note about
  who designed the cover, but often it supplies more information.

  Why not have a "In the Background" description on a web page with an
  informative background? It could be included right on the page, or
  linked to.

  For the wheelchair background image it might say:

  In the Background:

  The wheelchair symbol in the background of this page represents...

  etc.

  Would this help?

  Charles F. Munat
  Seattle, Washington



  Access Systems wrote:

  > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Joel Ward wrote:
  >
  >
  >>How would you suggest we make the background content available to all users?
  >>
  >
  > tough one. and it would have to vary by use
  >
  >>Would a longdesc-like description be useful?  (I know longdesc doesn't work
  >>with background images, but we could add footer text or a link somewhere on
  >>the page that describes the background.)
  >>
  >
  > this would work, using the wheelchair example posted earlier.  [background
  > image of well dressed middle aged man in wheelchair facing forward]  or
  > same type image  [young woman in sports outfit using racing wheelchair
  > popping a wheelie while going off curb] or how about [nurse pushing
  > elderly man in wheelchair down hall of nursing home]
  >
  > some basic background (wheelchair) but could have very different meanings
  >
  >
  >>And are you saying we always need to describe background images, even if
  >>they are just patterns?  Or just for background images with pictures or
  >>meaningful drawings?
  >>
  >
  > maybe an introduction with background information
  > eg
  > administration is red
  > finance is blue
  > personel is green etc
  >
  > Bob
  >
  >
  >
  >>Joel
  >>
  >>----- Original Message -----
  >>From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
  >>To: "Ineke van der Maat" <inekemaa@xs4all.nl>
  >>Cc: "Harry Woodrow" <harrry@email.com>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
  >>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:26 AM
  >>Subject: Re: background-image in CSS
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>>On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Ineke van der Maat wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>Hello Harry,
  >>>>
  >>>>Look at my poemsite http://home.zonnet.nl/ineke.maat
  >>>>
  >>>>I use for the whole site a  very special background-image  (it is part
  >>>>
  >>of a tree-image)  only for getting an effect. The real
  >>
  >>>>background of that page  is white and the background-image has nothing
  >>>>
  >>to do with  the content of that  page....or am I wrong?????
  >>
  >>>don't people with screen readers have a right to the "effect" you think is
  >>>usefull for some people but not others.   Why the difference?  Do you
  >>>think that visually impaired folks cannot get an "effect" or that they
  >>>don't deserve that "effect"??????
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>I don't see what you see
  >>>>
  >>>nor can you hear what I see
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>but you are also not me.
  >>>>So when you see the same as me
  >>>>are you still you or are you  me?
  >>>>
  >>>Bob
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>Greetings
  >>>>Ineke
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>----- Original Message -----
  >>>>From: "Harry Woodrow" <harrry@email.com>
  >>>>To: "Ineke van der Maat" <inekemaa@xs4all.nl>; "Kynn Bartlett"
  >>>>
  >><kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>; <jason@bartsite.com>; <jon@spinsol.com>;
  >>
  >>>><w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
  >>>>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:06 PM
  >>>>Subject: RE: background-image in CSS
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>>You said used to get an effect....isn't the effect then content?
  >>>>>
  >>>>>Harry WOodrow
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
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