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Re: background-image in CSS

From: Charles F. Munat <chas@munat.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:00:05 -0800
Message-ID: <3C4B9245.2060103@munat.com>
To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Cc: WAI List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Yeah, I was thinking of an interim solution.

(BTW, I'm in the midst of getting what I hope will be the first 
"semantic web" degree. So I'm down with tha metadata.)

Charles F. Munat
Seattle, Washington

Charles McCathieNevile wrote:

> There is a concept on the Web known as metadata, the basis of the semantic
> web project, that is all about doing just that. It is even required by WCAG
> &. - checkpoint 13.2 for the interested.
> 
> chaals
> 
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Charles F. Munat wrote:
> 
>   Ever noticed how some magazines will have a little blurb inside entitled
>   "On the Cover" or something like that? Usually it is just a note about
>   who designed the cover, but often it supplies more information.
> 
>   Why not have a "In the Background" description on a web page with an
>   informative background? It could be included right on the page, or
>   linked to.
> 
>   For the wheelchair background image it might say:
> 
>   In the Background:
> 
>   The wheelchair symbol in the background of this page represents...
> 
>   etc.
> 
>   Would this help?
> 
>   Charles F. Munat
>   Seattle, Washington
> 
> 
> 
>   Access Systems wrote:
> 
>   > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Joel Ward wrote:
>   >
>   >
>   >>How would you suggest we make the background content available to all users?
>   >>
>   >
>   > tough one. and it would have to vary by use
>   >
>   >>Would a longdesc-like description be useful?  (I know longdesc doesn't work
>   >>with background images, but we could add footer text or a link somewhere on
>   >>the page that describes the background.)
>   >>
>   >
>   > this would work, using the wheelchair example posted earlier.  [background
>   > image of well dressed middle aged man in wheelchair facing forward]  or
>   > same type image  [young woman in sports outfit using racing wheelchair
>   > popping a wheelie while going off curb] or how about [nurse pushing
>   > elderly man in wheelchair down hall of nursing home]
>   >
>   > some basic background (wheelchair) but could have very different meanings
>   >
>   >
>   >>And are you saying we always need to describe background images, even if
>   >>they are just patterns?  Or just for background images with pictures or
>   >>meaningful drawings?
>   >>
>   >
>   > maybe an introduction with background information
>   > eg
>   > administration is red
>   > finance is blue
>   > personel is green etc
>   >
>   > Bob
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >>Joel
>   >>
>   >>----- Original Message -----
>   >>From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
>   >>To: "Ineke van der Maat" <inekemaa@xs4all.nl>
>   >>Cc: "Harry Woodrow" <harrry@email.com>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>   >>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:26 AM
>   >>Subject: Re: background-image in CSS
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>>On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Ineke van der Maat wrote:
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>>Hello Harry,
>   >>>>
>   >>>>Look at my poemsite http://home.zonnet.nl/ineke.maat
>   >>>>
>   >>>>I use for the whole site a  very special background-image  (it is part
>   >>>>
>   >>of a tree-image)  only for getting an effect. The real
>   >>
>   >>>>background of that page  is white and the background-image has nothing
>   >>>>
>   >>to do with  the content of that  page....or am I wrong?????
>   >>
>   >>>don't people with screen readers have a right to the "effect" you think is
>   >>>usefull for some people but not others.   Why the difference?  Do you
>   >>>think that visually impaired folks cannot get an "effect" or that they
>   >>>don't deserve that "effect"??????
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>>I don't see what you see
>   >>>>
>   >>>nor can you hear what I see
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>>but you are also not me.
>   >>>>So when you see the same as me
>   >>>>are you still you or are you  me?
>   >>>>
>   >>>Bob
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>
>   >>>>Greetings
>   >>>>Ineke
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>----- Original Message -----
>   >>>>From: "Harry Woodrow" <harrry@email.com>
>   >>>>To: "Ineke van der Maat" <inekemaa@xs4all.nl>; "Kynn Bartlett"
>   >>>>
>   >><kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>; <jason@bartsite.com>; <jon@spinsol.com>;
>   >>
>   >>>><w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>   >>>>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:06 PM
>   >>>>Subject: RE: background-image in CSS
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>
>   >>>>>You said used to get an effect....isn't the effect then content?
>   >>>>>
>   >>>>>Harry WOodrow
>   >>>>>
>   >>>>>
>   >>>>>
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